John Philip Green 1831-1883 and his sons

 

Introduction

 

John Philip Green’s father, Henry Green, was the eldest son of John Green, paper manufacturer, of Hayle Mill, near Maidstone in Kent, and in January 1827 he became Minister of the Unitarian Chapel, in Brook Street, Knutsford, marrying Mary Brandreth in June.  The family first lived in Knutsford moving to Heathfield in 1838 where his father set up a boys school.

 

John Philip, their only son, was born in 1831 and having been educated at the school at Heathfield went to the newly established London University at the age of 16 in 1846.  In 1849 he gained a Bachelor of Arts Law degree passing in the 1st Division at 2nd honours and in 1850 took the Examination for the Flaherty Scholarships passing 2nd in honours. In March of the same year he went to Heidelberg University and attended there the lectures of Professors Wangeroro and Mettermaier on Roman Law,  and in June went on a tour in the Tyrol, Lake of Conioli and to Venice and then through Trieste, Vienna and Dresden to Berlin.  Having remained teaching at Heathfield  in 1851 he returned to London in January 1852 to commence working towards being called to the Bar. 

 

Throughout his time in London money was always in short supply and  in January 1854, he was teaching initially in a school and going to law lectures in his spare time, before gaining a position in chambers. He was eventually called to the Bar in November 1856.  After struggling for several years to gain a foothold in the profession, and being only too aware of the financial burden he had put on his family, he decided to leave and take up a position as advocate in Bombay in 1860.

 

His first wife Theresa Herbert died  in 1872 and in 1874 he married again, an Italian,

Cecilia Pacca,  with whom he had three sons.  Unfortunately he suffered a stroke in 1879 which resulted in him having to retire.  He was killed in the earthquake on the Island of Ischia in 1883.  Cecilia remained in Italy but came back to England when the boys went to school.  

         John Philip Green  c.18560 

 

 

 

1827 26/6  Parents Henry Green of Knutsford bachelor and Mary Brandreth of this parish spinster  [daughter of John Brandreth] were married at St Peters in the Parish  Bolton Le Moors Lancashire by Thos Fogg Curate witnessed J R Brandreth Emily J Green (his father’s sister and my husbands g.g.g.grandmother) Hannah Brandreth  Jane Brandreth  John Brandreth

1828 10/8 Sister Emily daughter of Henry Green Dissenting Minister of Nether Knutsford, and of  Mary his wife was born. Witness Henry Green, and was baptized by the Revd W. Gaskell at Bolton le Moors [taken from the Revd Henry Green’s Register, commencing page 18, (entry number 3) Registered at Dr Williams Library, Red Cross St, London]

1831 2/1 John Philip Green son of Henry Green Dissenting Minister of Nether Knutsford, and of  Mary his wife was born. Witness Henry Green, and was baptized by the Revd John Cropper at Bolton le Moors [taken from the Revd Henry Green’s Register, commencing page 18, (entry number 3) Registered at Dr Williams Library, Red Cross St, London ]

1833 26/8  Sister Anne Louisa Green daughter of Henry Green Dissenting Minister of Nether Knutsford, and of Mary his wife was born. Witness Henry Green, and was baptized by the Revd John Cropper at Knutsford [taken from the Revd Henry Green’s Register, commencing page 18, (entry number 3) Registered at Dr Williams Library, Red Cross St, London]

1835 28/1 Sister Mary Ellen Green daughter of Henry Green Dissenting Minister of Nether Knutsford, and of  Mary his wife was born. Witness Henry Green, and was baptized June 1841 by the Revd John Cropper at Knutsford [taken from the Revd Henry Green’s Register, commencing page 18, (entry number 3) Registered at Dr Williams Library, Red Cross St,]

1841 6/6 Census:  Henry Green (35) Mary (35) Emily (12) John Philip (11) Anne Louisa (7½}, Mary Ellen (6), Alice (4), Isabella (4 months), Sarah Seaton (15) Governess, Mathew Gibson (20) Visiting Minister plus several of his father’s students living at Over Tabley [HO107/94/14/4]

1841 10/12  With some of his father’s other pupils performed in a play.

 

1845 12/6  Grandfather John Brandreth of Nether Knutsford, gent aged 75 was buried Brook Street

1846 aged 16 went to London University At that time it was newly established on liberal principles, as Oxford and Cambridge were closed to all who were not members of the English Church.   Several of the boys at his father’s school also went there and were lifelong friends. [One, John Thornely, was one of the executors of his will.   JPG’s three sons’ knew him well and used to go to his house at Esher. His sisters and brothers were lifelong friends of the Green family]. 

1849 Obtained a Bachelor of Arts degree  passing in the 1st Division and 2nd honours.

1850 He took the Examination for the Flaherty Scholarships passing 2nd in honours.

1850 In March travelled to Heidelberg University and attended there the lectures of Professors Wangeroro and Mettermaier on Roman Law. In June went on a tour in the Tyrol, Lake of Conioli and to Venice and then through Trieste, Vienna and Dresden to Berlin.

[It is probable that he stayed there until the New Year as Isabella wrote in her reminiscences in the 1930s : “He told us of Xmas Trees and Father Xmas and all the festivities in Germany about Xmas, and my Mother thought it would be very pleasant to have one.  So she got a lovely fir tree and lighted it with little candles fastened with wire in the boughs and the presents were all arranged on tables (in front) and at the sides of the tree. I had a lovely brown silk umbrella with a lovely brown stick ending in a hook. I had many other things but the umbrella was my delight and it was cherished for many years. On the stick were engraved my initials. The Longs came from Grove House (or was it still at Brook House that they lived?)”]

1851 30/3 Census:  Henry Green head mar (49)Master of Arts Unitarian Minister  born Penshurst, Mary (47) born Bolton le Moors Lancs, Emily dau (22), John Philip (21) Batchelor of Art of Law, Anne Louisa dau (17) scholar at home, Mary Ellen (16) scholar at home all born Knutsford, Isabella (10) born Over Tabley, scholar at home, John Davies Tutor (29) Master of Arts born Herefordshire Pupils: John Blackburn (16) U.S.A. Joseph Mills Pilkington (15) Manchester, Robert Heywood McKeand (16) Southport, Robert Beshaw Kay (14) Bolton, Oswald Osmond Wingley (14),Bury, Robert Andrews Croyston (14) Liverpool, Arthur MacKeth Dean (14) Knutsford, Arthur Ellis Fardington (13) Manchester, William Mather (13) Fazackely, Thomas Bisham Key (12) Bolton, Edward Watson Bagchel (12) Longport Somerset, John William Hoskins (12) Kidderminster, Samuel Crompton (12) Liverpool, Charles Philips (13) Pendleton, Robert Murland (13) Ireland, Clement Francis Wedgewood (11) Eritria, Thomas Walker (10) Stone, Janetta Tatter (35) Wigton, Sadi Beddington (32), Rachel Edge (27) Newcastle, Elizabeth Latham (20) Eccleshead house servants living at Tabley Superior [HO107/2163/245]

1852 In September 1852 Elizabeth Gaskell went with John Philip, Stephen and Selina Winkworth to hear John Henry Newman preach [Letters of Elizabeth Gaskell No 133].              

1853 9/2  Letter from Catherine Winkworth to Eliza Paterson in Alderley

“I found on my return to Manchester Alice was spending a day or two with the Harveys at Lee Hall…..On Saturday afternoon Ste [her brother Stephen] and I drove over to Chelford, where we met Emma Shaen and John Philip Green and brought them back here to stay…”

[Letters and Memorials of Catherine Winkworth eds Susanna Winkworth and M J Shaen]

1854 7/6  From a letter written by Catherine Winkworth to her sister Susanna at Manchester whilst staying in London with the Gaskells, she names J.P. Green at an evening party at Emily’s, where she was staying, [ L&M vol.1.p.443]

In another letter dated  June she wrote  “ J.P.Green took Selina and me to the Temple Church, afterwards with Mrs G. to the Wedgwoods to dine, after which we went to the Carlyles, where we stayed about two and half hours. There were very few people there; some of the Leeds Marshalls, a Mr & Mrs Brookfield, he a fashionable Belgravian preacher, a wit, and diner out; she a sweet looking woman, said to be the original of Thackeray’s Amelia. Mr Carlyle talked chiefly to me, and next most to Meta! [Gaskell] Which was odd of him, but very pleasant for us. Altogether he was very friendly, and I enjoyed listening to him very much” [This is from a letter from Catherine to your youngest sister, Alice, dated Bedford Row (Emily’s home) June 1854.  [Information Joan Leach]

 

Although JPG had got his examinations during 1853,  from the absence of letters home it appears he had returned from London to Knutsford to help his father with the school. He returned to London in 1854 where he taught in a school in the morning,  and in his free time went to law lectures. In October that year he paid 2 guineas  to go to the chambers of a Mr Braithwaite to get experience. From his letters  to his mother,  it appears that she had been asking  him several times in the last few months of the year, what he was doing on Sundays.  In 1855 there are no letters between January  until one to Emily in April in which he says:

"I think that looking back on the last six months I have effected what I hoped for in regard to law and tho’ another subject has much occupied my thoughts and no doubt for about a month or 6 weeks prevented me giving my whole mind to my work at Chambers I really think I have learned a good deal with Mr Braithwaite”.

 [I am quite sure that there would have been correspondence with both his parents regarding his becoming a Roman Catholic. However it seems likely that the subject was such a source of upset that they were destroyed.  In the Jamison archive, with the original of Isabella’s reminiscences, I found a list of subjects she was going to cover on which it said 'JPG's conversion'. If she did write anything on the subject it has not survived.]

1855 8/4   From Alderley, Stephen Winkworth wrote to his sister Emily Shaen:

“I am extremely sorry to hear of John Philip Green’s going over to Rome …  Last year he seemed to me to have almost or quite given up the idea. It is very sad for his family.  For myself, too, for I had hoped we might be real friends but I cannot feel the same confidence in a Roman Catholic as in a Protestant” [Letters and Memorials of Catherine Winkworth Eds Susanna Winkworth & M J Shaen (Clifton pr pr 1883-1886 I, p.490)]             

1855 15/10  In a letter written to Mary Green, Elizabeth Gaskell wrote:

“I am glad to hear that the differences between you and JPGs tabooed subjects. Remind me to tell you about Miss Bathurst & her brother the priest at Stoke – he a convert”

1856 6/1  Alice Winkworth wrote to her sister Emily at Alderley ‘Alice and Selina have gone to stay [at the Greens] at Knutsford a little…[Letters and Memorials of Catherine Winkworth Ed Susanna Winkworth and M J Shaen Vol II 1856 p.7]

1856 17/11  Called to the Bar and became a Barrister Middle Temple 

1857 19/7  His father Henry Green wrote  to John Barcham Green, the son of  his uncle Samuel Green,  who had saved Henry’s father John snr from bankruptcy in 1838.  However this was with the proviso that the said John Barcham was taken as an apprentice to learn and eventually take over Hayle Mill, which he did in c1852.

Dear Cousin  I am naturally desirous of obtaining what interest I can on behalf of my son, who is about, this next October, to commence the practice of his profession as a Chancery barrister on conveyance and equity draftsman. You are I believe aware how successfully and honourably he has passed through his studentship for the law, and therefore I make less apology for asking you, when a proper opportunity offers, to mention his name to any of your solicitor or attorney friends. His name will be found in the regular law lists and his address, or chambers, No 3 Stone Buildings, Lincoln’s Inn.  I have been making a change in my own engagements in having relinquished my school this midsummer.  My daughters however are about to commence a school for young ladies in the same house,  and as I am sure they will endeavour to desire support I trust they will obtain it.  I have not been in your neighbourhood for some time but have been glad to hear that the world is not un-prosperous with you. 

With kind regards, in which my family write

I remain yours very sincerely Henry Green.

[Ref: Hayle Mill Archive 7/2/18 29]

1857-9 John Philip Green did not appear in the Law Lists 

1859 27/4  Letter written to Henry Green from Mr James about John Philip - presumably in response to one he had written asking for advice.  JPG had worked in Mr James Chambers during his training period.

“My dear Mr Green

I wish I could give you any useful suggestions to enable you to determine what would be the best course for you to advise your son to take. I have always felt that the bar is such a lottery that it is scarcely possible for any one to form for himself or for a friend any thing like a situation of his  …. chances of success .  Everyone has to go through a period of hard trial of that which is hardest of all to bear the seeking of p… and it seems to me to be far worse now than it was when I was called to the Bar.  There are not only more candidates but it seems to me that the bar has become every year more and more full of the friends and connections of solicitors in large practice who have heavy odds in their favour in the competition. 

According to my own experience however most men who so resolutely bide their time do ultimately get on at the bar and great success is so very brilliant that I never like uttering a word of discouragement to those who are willing to believe that there is a good time coming.  I am bound however to say that I am never surprised at any young barrister looking to the chances of success in some of our foreign professions and colonies.  I was myself much tempted in an early part of my career to try Calcutta or …. And I have known my juniors who in both those places have had the most splendid success.

I have never until your letter heard of Toronto as offering a good field for an English barrister but I can easily understand that it may be so – and that a young man may find the best chance of a rising fortune in a young and rising country.

I can only say that were I in your place I would not seek to influence your son one way or the other. It is a grave and solemn matter for himself to consider and determine and if, not under any temporary feeling of depression or disappointment, but duly weighing everything, he deliberately prefers a concern which is offering the best chances.  I conceive that there is nothing for you but to submit to the sacrifice and bid him God speed.                      

I know that in these painful separations the bitterness is to the old who stay and to the young who go forth but it is the daily lot of many families from the highest to the lowest in our land and modern inventions have all but annihilated distance.  Let him decide for himself warning him that his decision should be carefully considered.  Trusting that whatever it my be neither he or you will find occasion ultimately to regret it.  I am  W M James

1860 14/6        Letter written by Elizabeth Gaskell to Mary Green

My dear Mary,                             43 Eaton Place                   Thursday

Philip only left about an hour ago after sitting here nearly two hours & conveying off with him a letter to Mr. Smith (& Elder) who promised me  “a very strong letter of recommendation to the first solicitor’s house in Bombay and any others he may find Mr. Green desires when he sees him”.

I do not think Philip is out of spirits. I think on the contrary he must have been long depressed by his small success & the tedious waiting, and that the prospect of going when he really seems to have a good prospect of immediate employment. He gave me all kinds of reasons for thinking that he had this prospect and I must say it appeared to me that he had sufficient grounds for the step he was going to take. As he has probably told them all to you there is no use recapitulating them. The only quarter from which I could see a cloud was from the fact of his being a Roman Catholic which as I know the religious people in India are all evangelical or low church seemed to me unpromising as far as it went. But then again he had evidently encouragement from several people high up in legal position in Bombay who were qualified to judge of his probabilities of success, He thinks he may return, if all is successful — as success­ful as he hopes — for a visit in three years. That if he is very successful he may come home for good with a sufficient fortune to live upon in twelve years time. He reckons his necessary expense at £300 a year (more than in England), but the chances of’ speedy success as far greater - at the very worst he says he can return and take up his English barrister’s life where he leaves it now. He speaks cheerfully and looks well. I don’t think he has an idea (when had children ever) of how much you suffer at the prospect of separation. He spoke of ‘telegrams’ as ‘diminishing’ the distance which showed me how little he understood what the pain of absence really is - I remember Meta did the same — but then it is as well, if one can feel but really sure that the step our children are going to take is for their true happiness. Of Philip’s success in his profession I should say his chances are as 100 to 1 against what they would be if he remained in Eng1and. I saw Mr. James yesterday & had a long talk with him about Philip. He said that Philip was doing “nothing in his profession here” but might do much at Bombay where he believed there was a good opening etc.

I asked Philip when he thought he should sail - he said on the 27th or if he could persuade Dunbar (whom he is going to accompany) On July 12th but he does not wish Dunbar to get the……           ? He is going to write to him tonight to ask if he will delay his voyage till the 12th. I am telling you as much as ever I can because I feel as if it was the only little thing I can do for you.  Do not ever doubt us, dear friends —don’t you, dearest Ellen, ever doubt Marianne. We cannot help — it is as much God’s ordering as any other event of our lives. Having a very large circle of acquaintance and many occupations which come upon us unexpectedly & prevent our keeping our time and thoughts free, as others who do not know so many. But I am quite sure no one that I know of ever needed our sympathy but what we gave it with true hearts. Dear Ellen. Marianne loves you dearly & has many a time said this week “Oh! I cannot get this sorrow of the Greens out of my head” — indeed we have thought of it more than of anything else. So often one means to write or to say things & the time and opportunity slip by: -but believe this, we do love you dearly, as dear true friends of long ago: - and trust us always please.

I must go- ever Your most affectionate,  E  C  Gaskell

 [The Letters of Mrs Gaskell edited by J.A.V.Chapple & Arthur Pollard]

1860 10/7  Having said goodbye to his mother and sisters he left for London  accompanied by his father. During the few days before his departure Henry wrote home to Mary each day [see website]  it was obviously very painful for them and sad for JPG as he would, I am sure have preferred to stay and found work in England.

 

1860 12/7                                                    Southampton                          12 July 1860

Dear Mother

I have entered on my last day in England.  I cannot help feeling sad at the thought of leaving you all for so long but in regard to my expedition in itself I feel full of hope & confidence.  My last days have been passed in very busy preparation & little to communicate has happened in the course of it. 

S McCulloch has come down to Southampton to see me off.  I shall always pray for you all & hope that the seas & lands which separate us will not prevent us from loving one another as much as if we were close at hand.

With my dearest love to you all

I remain,  Yours very affectionately,   J Philip Green

JRL Box 3/5     [Ref: JA/JPG/254]

 

1860 13/7   Left England for India

1861 18/4  Census: Future wife Theresa Herbert aged (21) listed with her father and family J R Herbert (51) Pict painter born Essex Maldon, R Herbert (51) Agnes (24), Wilfred (19) Artist (student) Cecil (13) a cook and housemaid living at 7 Grove End Place St Marylebone [RG9/90/81//3]

1861  Bombay List of Inhabitants (British Library)

Green John Philip Barrister-at-Law and Government Professor of Law El.

1866  Bombay List of Inhabitants (British Library)

Listed under Advocates J Philip Green LL.B called to the Bar

1866 7/11.  Under Inhabitants: Green John Philip Barrister at law Malabar Hill.

1867 15/3 In a letter from Henry Green to his cousin John Barcham Green he wrote "Today I had a letter from Bombay, in which my son tells me that in a case in which he was counsel the trial had lasted three entire days on the two first from ten in the morning to 8 in the evening, and on the third day to finish the matter from 10 in the morning to ¼ past 10 at night, with an interval of only 20 minutes.  I think benevolent people should get a 10 hours bill to protect the lawyers from over work." [Ref: HMA  7/2/167]

1868  By April he had returned to the UK and in August went to Knutsford,  when in a letter from Emily to Isabella (who was in Ireland on holiday) she wrote “I wish I saw any nearer prospect of Mrs Philip. He is nicer than ever & I should be very glad to think he was not going to a comparatively lonely life again.” 

He became engaged to Theresa Herbert in October.

1868  5/11       7 Grove End Place,    St Johns Wood

My dear Isabel,

Very many thanks for your kind good wishes to me. I am afraid you must have thought I kept your brother rather a long while in suspense but you know I could not pledge myself to him until I could feel towards him as he desires.  Now however I hope I shall make up for the reserve which I have no doubt you noticed when visiting here.  I have a longing to see you again & I hope that we may be able to manage to pay you the visit which Mrs Green has so kindly proposed.  As I am expecting Philip every minute I am sure you will excuse a longer letter.  I hear that you drawing from the easel, my painting is of course given up for the present.  We shall I am sure some day be dear sisters to one another for you know I liked you from the beginning.Philip has just come so good bye with best love dear Isabel.

Ever yr very affecte    Theresa Herbert.

1868  11/11 

My dear Isabel,

My time as you would naturally conclude is so much taken up with Philip that I have not much leisure for letter writing.  However I must just send you a few lines which I wished to have done before to ask you if you & your sister Ellen will kindly promise to be among the number of my bridesmaids.  I shall hope that you will both be able to accede to my wish – so kindly write to let me know when you have spoken about the matter with your sister.

Philip I know has written today so you will know from him of all that has passed since you last heard from him.  We have had no quarrel as yet! Philip wants me to be sociable now as I have been writing for a long while. You will I am sure excuse a longer letter.

With best love, Believe me  My dear Isabel

Very affecny yrs, Theresa Herbert    

1868  19/11

My dear Isabel                                    7 Grove End Place

By the same post that I write to your brother I will also send you a few lines to let you know that we have decided upon for the bridesmaid’s dresses &c.  As it is too cold now to wear a thin material we have arranged for you all to wear silk & I think that I should like you to have sky blue – if neither you nor your sister have any very particular objection to the colour. It will suit you I know!

In order however not to offend artisan eyes by the possibility of having a variety of shades we propose that the six of you should have the silk cut from the same piece.  Do you think you would like us to order the material for you or would you prefer matching the colour yourselves. If you would tell us the number of yards you would require there would be no difficulty in sending the bolt to you.  I have an idea that you will not be able to get the proper colour in Knutsford. But of course you must do as you think best only kindly write & tell one what you would wish us to do if you arrange to have the stuff from London.

The wreaths (with veils) will be made of roses of pinkish yellow – or yellowish fruit I cannot tell you the name of the natural rose being no botanist but I daresay you  know what I mean.  The dresses of course must have a little white trimming but Agnes will have hers made directly & you shall have a pattern of the same – very soon.

I hope you will like what we have chosen as also yr sister. I know you will be attired in a becoming costume but of course I cannot say whether Ellen would be suited in blue. I hope so. So now that I have given you so long an explanation I will bring my letter to a close. Philip will have told that we hope to pay our little visit to yr family in the beginning of December.

We both of us long to see you.  With my best love.  Believe me,  My dear Isabel

Very affecny yrs,  Theresa Herbert

P.S. Mamma wishes me to say that she will have the wreaths & veils in readiness for you when you come up – so you need not think about these.

1868  12/11     My dear Isabel            7 Grove End Place

Since I last wrote to you we have thought to make a slight alteration in the bridesmaid’s dresses. We have chosen now for material poplin instead of silk as we think it looks so much richer & is more serviceable.  My sister intends having her dress made at the dressmakers who is making my things for me. The three bridesmaids in town will I think go to the same person.  I asked her this morning whether she would undertake to make also for you & your sister & she said that there would be no difficulty if she could have the petticoat bodies & the length of skirt in the front.

Do you think you would like Mde Kennett to make the dresses for you ?   I can answer for her fitting you perfectly for she is a first rate dress maker at least she is considered to be so.

Of course if you prefer it the material & trimmings shall be sent to you or rather we will bring the same to you but I think you need not fear a misfit in Mde K.   Mde K would make each dress complete without extras for 6 guineas.  I should tell you this as there ought not be any mistake made.  We think the price reasonable as the poplin is very handsome.

Will you tell Philip with my love that I will write to him by tomorrows but I hope I shall hear from him in the morning.  I am very greedy to expect a letter every day Am I not?  Tomorrow week I shall be with you.  I look forward with much pleasure to meeting you again.  Accept my very best love & believe me,  My dear Isabel

Very affec yrs,  Theresa Herbert

1868    22/12             Heathfield           Knutsford     

Dearest Isabel

I had a quiet drive home thinking of our most sweet tender Philip!  I am very tired but not with the drive, it was doubtless the excitement.  Did he look better when he left you ?  Do you know I am quite thinking whether I could manage to go to the wedding I thought he wished it so much, & dear Emily you know will willingly stay instead.   If I go I must get a bonnet by some means or other – We think you had better go to Elkingtons tomorrow.   I hope they will have the things ready as follows:  A tray from the Falcons 22 inches & if it looks to small, that size, get it a little larger – our tea trays are 24½ inches & we thought they were rather too large.  A round waiter to match, from you three sisters – a sugar basin, sugar tongs & cream jug from Grandmama & the eight little salt cellars from your father and myself.  I hope you will be successful in finding them ready.  I fancy Elkington is rather dearer than some others but I fancy his style is [….]  that must be good dear Isabel & […] according to present fashion.  I wonder if the parcel could be sent off at once for any delay on the railway would make it too late.  I think the tray might also be packed in the box then it would all be ready to go on to London together. I found dear Grandmama tolerably well, she had felt the parting very much & spoke of Philip’s sweet affectionate manner.  They wait for post & tea & Sarah Gough.  Kind regards to the Cliffords    MG     [her mother Mary Green]

1868  23/12          Heathfield, Knutsford

Dearest Isabel 

Mother cannot remember whether she told you yesterday that she has fixed to go to the wedding after all.  Dear Philip seemed to wish it so much that she was overcome. This morning a bright idea struck us that really the Mrs Houghton or S Merriman plan might be successfully arranged for me to have a flying visit to London getting there at 9.15 on Monday night & leaving the next afternoon or quite early on Wednesday morning.    Gma takes to the idea of S Merriman most kindly & is very well just now. The brothers wd come in in the evening to play whist & James cd sleep in the house.  What do you think of us?  It will be so delightful to be all there.  I shd stay at the Portland or wherever Annie is so as to miss as little as possible of the Monday evening meeting (& partying!).  The dresses are not yet come, nor any letter. I am writing tonight to Agnes about them.  With Xmas day coming in they may be detained on the road.  We have not heard from Philip.  I send you Annie’s letter which amuses us.  We think your letter gives a pleasant idea of your prospect of a visit at Birmingham.  Give our love to Mrs Clifford & Maria & Annie Wickstead too.  Our idea of future plans is to await the Lawfords answer & then consider afresh.  Mother has been over to Mrs Birtlek & a bonnet is promised tomorrow. She will wear her lavender silk, Ellen’s opera mantle bound with crimson, a lovely velvet flower from her own archives of the same colour which is just the fashion, Mrs B says; I am so glad she is going dear Mother.  With love your affect sister,  Emily Green

1868 29/12  John Philip Green aged 38 bachelor Barrister of 47B New Bond Street son of Henry Green Dissenting Minister married Theresa Herbert  aged 28 spinster of 7 Grove End Place daughter of John Rogers Herbert Royal Academician at Lady’s Chapel Grove Road Marylebone according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Catholic Church by licence witnessed by Arthur Langdale, Thomas Cahill and Henry Green

1869    23/11   He and Theresa returned to Bombay and he joined the Service of the Civil Department in the Presidency, as Acting Remembrancer of Legal Affairs Bombay, till 18th May 1871.

1870   From a letter written to Isabella from Agnes Herbert – It seems possible that Ellen went out to Bombay as Theresa was pregnant –however it appears she had a miscarriage 

Tuesday    The Chimes         Kilburn

My dear Isabel,

Your Papa’s fine work on Shakespeare & the emblem writers came last night. I hasten to acknowledge its arrival but of course Papa will write himself to thank Mr Green for his kindness in presenting him with a copy – we have only had time as yet to peep into it but I am sure there is a great treat in store for us. How kind of your Papa to think of us.  I think he knows that anything about Shakespeare gives us intense interest.  I can fancy that this work must have been quite a labour of love to Mr Green.

We were all much grieved with dear Ellen’s news of Theresa, it must have been a sad disappointment to them both but let us hope the same trouble may not occur again.  Poor Theresa!  I am so sorry for her for until the last mail she had been giving such good accounts of her health.  I do hope Ellen will not be fatigued with nursing Theresa. I cannot tell you what a consolation it is to us to think that Ellen was with Theresa at the time. I know she was so exceedingly kind & watchful of her.  Theresa wrote a short letter to Mamma from her bed. She seems to feel the disappointment very much but otherwise writes in good spirits – she says that dear Ellen has been quite a Godsend to her for she is so exceedingly kind to her and she and Mrs Latham feed her just as you (Mamma) and Agnes used to do when I was ill – her remark about the coachman was not flattering, she says he was tipsy the day he jolted them about so much.  She asked Mamma to send her over an air cushion.  In a former letter she asked me to send her some gloves.  Would you tell me Ellen’s size, for Theresa told me some were for Ellen but forgot to give the size.  They will go by Post but not by this week’s mail for I fear we shall not have time to go to town.

Wilfred came from Rome yesterday rather unexpectedly – as he intended coming by Mount […]. He did not write for fear of making us anxious owing to a sad accident which happened lately to a train, from the snow, 37 people were killed.  He is very well and has brought two pictures for the Royal Academy.  I hope he will be able to finish them both, at first he only intended sending one but the smaller one is so nearly finished that he hopes now to send it.  Cyril has sent a clever little picture “Homeward after labour” tired oxen going along the Campagna followed by the ploughman*.  I hope it may meet with success for there is evidence of great earnestness in his painting. Papa is very pleased with it.

Papa has just come in & wishes me to say that he hopes he will be able to write in a day or so to Mr Green to thank him for his kind & welcome gift.

I hope the weather is more pleasant at Southport for Mrs Green & Emily for here it is wretched.

Is Mrs Falcon with you now? Pray give her my kind love.  What is the name of her little baby?  I shall be very glad to hear from Bombay.

With much love, Believe me, dear Isabel,

 Your very affly,             Agnes Herbert

[*Henry Green published Shakespeare and the Emblem Writers in 1870

*Cyril Wiseman Herbert, Painter, The Chimes Kilburn exhibited at the Royal Academy:  1870 Homeward after Labour:  1871 An Idyl:   1873 On the hill-tops: 1874 Returning to the fold:   1875 Escaped home]

1871    19/5     Without appointment until 27 May 1872.

1871    In May his wife Theresa returned home to England due to ill health accompanied by Ellen.

1871  14/6      Mother Mary wife of Henry Green of Heathfield Knutsford died aged 68 and was buried in the churchyard of the Brook Street Chapel Knutsford June 17th.  [Chester RO ref: EUC9/4384/1 Registers of Brook Street] 

1871   Returned to England in the Autumn

1872    28/5     Returned to India and assumed position as Acting Judge of Her Majesty’s High Court Bombay.  Theresa did not accompany him.

1872    21/11   Wife Theresa Green aged 33 wife of John Philip Green Barrister at Law of Bombay died of phthisis [consumption]  several years haemapophysis 7 days at The Chimes, West End Lane, Kilburn, Hampstead. Registered 25 November by Wilfred Herbert (her brother)

1873    22/2     Confirmed as Judge of Her Majesty’s High Court Bombay

1873    9/8       Father Henry Green died at 12.30 pm (note found on a piece of paper in Jamieson Archive) he was buried in the churchyard of the Old Presbyterian Church in Knutsford and the following is on the gravestone : Mary wife of Henry Green and daughter of John Brandreth born May 28 1803 died June 14 1871. Henry Green Minister of the Chapel 1827-1872 born June 23 1801 died Aug 9th 1873.

1873    24/11   On Sick Leave until 17 November 1874.  He started home but went via Italy arriving in London early in the New Year. In March/April he went with Isabella and Agnes Herbert to Rome.  It appears that this visit was made with the express intention of the Arnold’s introducing Philip to Cecilia Parker.  Philip left Isabella and Agnes in Rome and went to Naples from where he wrote to Isabella on 29th April describing his first meeting with Cecilia and then again on the 2nd May to say that they had become engaged.

1874    29/4     Naples Hotel Washington                                           29 April 1874

My dear Isabel

 I arrived here all safely on Monday evening & found that Lady Arnould had taken a room for me at this Hotel. She also sent her carriage & man servant to meet me so that I entered Naples in due state.  I have a room on the third story overlooking the bay & commanding most beautiful views in several directions.  To the left is Vesuvius with its constant appendage at the summit of a small map of smoke or cloud & on the right Posilippo Point & between the lovely bay with Capri right in front.  Naples looks much more beautiful now than when I saw it in December.  The weather then was rather gloomy & the scene of course is one which depends much on sunlight & clear atmosphere to bring it out.  The two mornings I have spent in the Museum which I am now able to examine more at leisure.  Last evening I was at dinner at the Arnoulds & afterwards they had a few friends.  The only person besides myself who was at dinner was a man I met before when I was here a son of Marquis Tescarda  He is a very pleasant polite person about 30 & seems to me to spend two out of  three of his evenings at the Arnould’s house.  He was private secretary to Francis 11nd   when he lived in Rome for several years.  Afterwards came in by degrees about 8 or 9 others the principal in importance being a Duke Maddalone who is considered a very clever & highly accomplished man. There was another duke by name de Moya who for some time was a secretary to the Italian Legation at Paris. He seemed an exceedingly sprightly clever man but with a considerable amount of conceit.  There was also a Princess Tignateli who lives in the upper floor of the same house where the Arnoulds live & seems a great friend of Lady Arnould’s.  She has a most lovely face & very graceful manners but no great reputation for wit.  Such a face & manners as she has however go far to make up even for that deficiency.  I was rather astonished to hear from Lady Arnould that this apparently young & graceful creature was the mother of 11 children. Besides these were Signor Onsmet whom I had met before & a Signor Topicelli an old literary gentleman, I believe, & the Marchioness & Mifs Pacca with another lady whose name I did not catch. I found my Italian of sufficient quantity  & quality to enable me to a fair extent to join in the conversation. Madam Pacca is a very nice kind old lady with whom I managed to get on very well.  Mifs Pacca cannot be considered to have a beautiful face but it has a very pleasant kind & lively expression.  She is rather tall with a well formed & graceful figure.  She has evidently a good deal of intelligence & is perfectly natural & gay in manner without any trace of frivolity. She was plainly dressed with a rather disorderly crop of hair with a touch of powder about it which I suppose is the fashion now.  What turn matters may hereafter take is of course a thing not easy to estimate but she impressed me very favourably by her kind sprightly manners & easy intelligent conversation.  I am going this afternoon with Lady Arnould to a “flower show” where I believe we are to meet the young lady & tomorrow there is to be an excursion to Capidinante  which was one of the palaces of the late King & has very beautiful gardens. It is only a short distance out of Naples.

I am very sorry to think that you are not having the glimpse of the beauty of this place at this season but the necessity of keeping myself at leisure for “opportunities” would have made it rather difficult for me to take you about had you been here.          

I think it would be better not to mention certain parts of this letter even to Agnes at present as of course nothing may come of it & very probably will not. Still I have told you my impressions so far as any have been produced down to the present time. I am writing this I may say without having been to the post today to ask for letters.

Yesterday of course I did not go as it would have been no use.  As my companions in the Railway journey I had five Americans who were apparently rushing thru Italy at high pressure speed. The objects which seemed to interest them on the journey were not so much the lots of scenery & the several interesting places passed on the road as anything of an industrial tendency as e.g. the mode of manuring the fields, a rope way or a stone quarry.  One of them was rather the crack of the party  & had been to Europe before told them out of [….] something about the different places as we passed them.  The supplementary information he furnished was not always of a perfectly correct character as for instance in passing […….] which he pronounced […..] he informed us that [….] was the author of a celebrated work called Inctatis Christo & that Machiavelli whose name was on a locomotive engine was a celebrated Italian philosopher.  They were not however in any way bad fellows after all.  With love to Agnes. Believe me your affectionate brother.  Philip Green (then written across the front sheet – When you write you had better direct the letter to me at this hotel)

1874    2/5       Naples                                    

Dear Isabel

I received your letter this morning & am glad to hear that you are getting on sufficiently well without me. I should have written yesterday but I wished to wait till after last evening. Yesterday afternoon I was in hope that the Pacca’s would stay in Naples for a week longer & that I might write to ask you and Agnes to come at once here & make their acquaintance.

I have in due form (which I will relate to you when we meet) proposed to & been accepted by Cecilia & so far as I can judge with the approval & consent of the family.  Last night I went to the house of a sister of the young lady, a Countess d’Addinons, where I met the Marquis Pacca (the brother of the Signorina Cecilia) who had come down to Naples to see me. Cecilia (who by the way does not yet allow me to call her by that name) would have liked to meet you & Agnes very much & as I have said I thought the whole matter was arranged that they were to stay here another week & I was to write to ask you to come here. Now however they have said that the sd Marchesa is obliged to return to Benevento tomorrow & of course according to Italian habits she is obliged to carry off Cecilia with her & cannot even entrust her to the care of her married sister.  I fancy however that the proposal is approved by the family as they have invited me to go this week to Benevento for a few days which surely they would not have done had they felt any difficulties.  My acquaintance with Cecilia has ripened fast in the last three days & I have not the least doubt that if the affair even reaches that point she will make me a very loving & happy wife.  She told me with great simplicity that she had no accomplishments but I am sure she has plenty of intelligence which is better & tho as I told you not beautiful in respect of regularity of features has a very expressive face & plenty of liveliness & good nature. I am going to see her again this afternoon at the Princess [….] & shall then fix about going to Benevento. I expect it will be on Monday & after staying there a couple of days I shall return to Rome. I shall be sorry not to have shown you Naples but you have seen how I have been placed.  You may tell Agnes the substance of the above to the effect [….]that I may be considered as engaged to Cecilia but it would be better not to publish the news till after I have told you further to do so.  I am sure you will all like her she is such a warm hearted lively girl & evidently such a favourite with all the members of her family.

My relations however with the mother the sad Marchioness do not improve as I hoped. She is rather a precise stiff old lady on further acquaintance & has her daughters [….] awe & subjection.  Still I cannot suppose that she wishes to make any real difficulty as otherwise why should she invite me to Benevento & to their own house too which is a strong step for Italians I believe.

With love to Agnes,  Your affectionate brother,  J Philip Green

I shall write to Emily in a day or two so you need not mention it.

1874    3/5                    Naples Hotel              Washington               

My dear Isabella

I hope you received my letter of yesterday.  Last evening I passed again at the Countess D’Accians & saw some more relations of the Pacca family.  The latter i.e. Cecilia & her mother & brother set off today to return to Benevento & I went to the station to see them off.  All relations to the last have been most friendly & in one quarter I hope indeed am sure something more than friendly.  The weather here has quite broken & I hope to return to Rome again by the night train tomorrow (Monday) so you may expect me back on Tuesday morning.  I am writing to Emily & also to the Herberts this afternoon to tell them about this new and interesting incident.

Believe me in much love,  Your affectionate brother,  Philip Green

I will bring some lava medallions with me from Stella’s 

1874    26/6     John Philip Green married Cecilia Pacca at Benevento Italy

1874    3/8       John Philip Green aged 44 Judge the High Court Bombay son of Henry Green (deceased) Clerk in Holy Orders  previously married as allowed at Benevento Italy on the 26th June 1874 Cecilia Anna Maria Guissippe Ternsas Marcellini Green formerly Pacca spinster daughter of Guiseppe Pacca (deceased) Landed Proprietor both of 22 Dover Street, Piccadilly witnessed by John Dunbar MP and Joseph H Mercer at the Register Office in the District of St George Hanover Square Middlesex 

1874    18/11   Resumed post as Judge of Her Majesty’s High Court Bombay

1875    2/4       Charles Francis(Joseph) son of John Philip & Cecilia Green was born in Bombay

1876    19/3     Henry Edward (Joseph Bartholomew) son of John Philip & Cecilia Green was born in Italy.

1876    11/11   On privilege leave until 10 January 1877 resumed charge - Judge of Her Majesty’s High court Bombay 12 January 1877 having overstayed his leave by one day viz 11 January 1877

1877    19/10   Philip Anthony (Mark) son of John Philip & Cecilia Green was born in Bombay

1879    3/3       JPG was on privilege leave in England from 3 March to 12 May.  During which time, from the Report below, he consulted Dr Cahill on 3 May just before he returned to Bombay. It appears that Cecelia then went to Italy with the children.

1879    15/5     Benevento                              

Dear Ellen

I received yours of the 16th (Saturday) late last evening  on our arrival from Naples  where Cecilia & I had been on a visit of three days.  We left Benevento on Sunday evening & returned last night. We had a very pleasant tho’ short visit the weather tho’ not very warm was still pleasant and we had little or no rain. Cecilia had not yet seen her sister Grintia or little niece Centogincthantia the other one Maria Luisa had come over to Benevento while I was at home.  Mimet & Mazio were also there as well as Conte Vince & his wife of Rome who are great friends of Mimas & had come to see Naples.  We were quite a large party of ourselves at the Table d’hôte the second evening as Maria Luisa & Grintia with their respective husbands joined us. There were some quiet Germans there who were considerably very [..] & astonished at the “noise” the ladies made.  Cecilia is quite equal to her sisters in power of conversation & the Contessa Vinci was by no means behindhand. Mimi & Mazio have also no notion of playing a silent part on such an occasion . The more quiet of the party  namely the husbands, Contento  […] & Enrico Capazzi & myself who formed the outskirts protected the Germans & a solemn Turkish or Egyptian diplomat one Riaz Pasha from the liveliness of the centre.  Riaz Pasha seemed lost in wonder how ladies could talk at such a rate  […] […] “furore” & perhaps thanked his fate that his ladies of his nation were tranquil.  The next evening we all went to a circus.  In the morning I [..] to go to the museum in [..].  One morning I went up to the former monastery of St Martino (or the Certosa as it is called) which overhangs the city of Naples & whence is a most splendid view over the bay towards […] on the one hand and over to the islands of […] & bay of […] the weather was perfect for such an occasion. Clear with mingled shadows & sunshine. I went in one evening to see the Arnolds. On our return we found the children very well. Cuccio had almost entirely got rid of his cough. Carlo & baby have still coughs but not much & Carlo looks as strong and lively as possible.  They enjoy very much going out when the weather is fine & Pace Vecchia where there is a nice large garden. It might perhaps be a good thing to apprentice him in a circus if at least one accepts the principle of  giving a boy the profession he shows a turn for.  This however will soon pass as Carlo has plenty of intelligence & does his little lessons very nicely. Cecilia sends her best love to all. She has been very busy the last week or would have written. She thought however while I am still here you would hear Benevento news thro me.  After my departure she will write.  I leave on Saturday morning & expect to arrive at Brindisi the same evening at 10.30 & shall start by the steamer early on Monday morning. We were very sorry to hear of Annie’s children having measles & hope the complaint will have a favourable course.

Please post the enclosed letter.

With best love            Your affec brother                  J Philip Green

[This letter was extremely difficult to read as written on airmail paper in ink]

1879    5/5       Resumed position Judge of Her Majesty’s High Court Bombay

1879    9/12      Suffered a stroke

Case of the Honble Mr Justice Green

Mr Green has been suffering from right hemiplegia with aphasia since Dec 9th 1879. 

About six weeks before his attack occurred he complained of giddiness & feeling as if he would fall to the ground.  On the morning of the 9th he fell down & was unable to rise from the ground for several minutes.  When I saw him about noon he walked about & conversed freely.  He stated that he had not lost his consciousness when he fell but his speech had been affected.  In the evening after taking his dinner he suddenly became unconscious, & on my seeing him I found him comatose, breathing stertorously & completely paralysed on the right side. Dr Hunter then saw him with me in consultation.  He found his hearts action very weak & active treatment for the time contra-indicated. Sinapisms were applied to his extremities & cold lotion to his head. As soon as he was able to swallow purgatives were administered which were inoperative till aided by enemata. On the second night he had an attack of convulsions for which bromide of potassium was given & subsequently the use of this medicine in conjunction with the iodide of potassium was continued for about ten days.  He had no return of convulsions but remained in a half conscious state.  For some time had great difficulty in swallowing his tongue remaining almost motionless in the floor of his mouth.  Very gradually he has gained power of it & has latterly been able to protrude it readily & to take solid food.  Pari papa his intelligence has improved, but he is markedly aphasic.  He is able to say “yes” & “no” though not always appropriately - & occasionally short sentences as “good night” or “I don’t know” &c.  His aphasia is now clearly largely of the amnesic form.  Within the last week he has been able to slightly move his paralysed leg & this power has been daily increasing.  There is a slight rigidity of the muscles of the paralysed arm.  At present he is taking a mixture of iodide of potassium & [..] [..] which appears to suit him.  He takes his food well & sleeps well. Throughout his illness Mr Green has been free from inflammatory symptoms & there are no indications of valvular heart disease or of renal disease.

J Temperley Gray       LRCP Lond.    Bombay    January 28th 1880

1880    5/1       On Furlough on Medical Certificate to Europe for one year

[History of Services of Gazetted Officers in the Civil Dept in the Presidency of Bombay 1875-1881 British Library  Ref: V/12/290]

1880    21/1     From letters written by Cecilia to Emily Green we learn she arrived back in Bombay on Wednesday 21 January. On the 23 January she wrote to Emily saying that she and Philip would be returning to Italy and asking if she would go to Naples to help her sorting out his affairs, as he was paralized down one side and was unable to speak or write.  She and John Philip left Bombay Saturday 31 January 1880 and travelled to Alexandria. There they had to wait a week before there was a steamer to Brindisi and from there they continued to Naples. JPG’s Indian Servant and a Nurse travelled with them. Mrs Oliver, who appeared to be nanny/ companion, was I think left with the children in Italy.

1880 Feb-May There is a series of letters written from Italy by Emily to Ellen. [JRL Box 4/3]   Emily arrived in Paris 22 February travelling via Dover and Calais. She continued on to Turin on 23 arriving in Rome on the 25th – she commented that Cooks made travelling so comfortable “it was as easy as going to Weybridge”.

She arrived in Naples on the 26th and then on the 28th they all moved to the Villa Postiglione Posilippo (which was about three miles outside the city). This caused problems as it was not easy to send letters as they had to go into the city to post them.  During this time Emily wrote regular letters back home, most of which were telling the sisters how Philip was getting on.  On the 8th March she wrote that he had been granted one year’s furlough on a medical certificate dated 5 January 1880 and on the 14th gave details of his income and expenses...

“The state of Philip’s affairs is this:

£1000 sick leave allowance

£13 to 12000 invested & held by Oriental Bank London

£10 000  Cecillia’s settlement

some money in India

Malheran bungalow

Books & furniture in Bombay

Then after the sick leave allowance there will be the half pension so that they will have it seems to me £1700 or £1800 a year.  I have been telling Cecilia that for the boy’s education total expenses of £200 each should be reckoned so that it would be best from the beginning to leave this amount each out of consideration in arranging general expenses so that the present £1200 a year is about right.  She much wishes to begin right & not have to change afterwards. As to the house if a good offer comes I almost think that better be let as this other must remain uncertain but you can judge much better than I.  I only mean that there would quite be the room & convenience P & C would require on the plan I have said & something known would make things easy if we can do with uncertainty any longer.”

On the 10th March Cecilia went to Benevento and returned with the three boys.  Emily continued to write home discussing JPG’s progress, and asking Ellen to get jumpers etc for the children and Cecilia. She also asked her to look for somewhere suitable for them to live in London.  Eventually they decided on a house in Kensington near Kensington Gardens.  In the last letter of this sequence dated 25 March 1880 Emily wrote that they were hoping to return to England but it might be sometime as would depend on JPG’s progress.  He had started moving better but could still hardly talk but he appeared to be able to read and understand.  They were going to move back into Naples as the villa was too far outside the city and the doctors wanted to be able to visit more regularly to check on his progress.

3 April they moved to Villa Posiglione Posilipo Naples but would move on by 9th to Riviera di Chiaga 103 as the sewage went into the sea in the vicinity and it smelt!   Dr & Mrs Twyford were in Naples at that time and visited and found JPG better than Dr Twyford thought from his discussions with Arthur Jamison - Arthur had been in partnership with him in St Helens when he and Isabella met. The Green’s knew Mrs Twyford.

By 15 May  Emily wrote saying JPG was walking much better and that they were returning to England in about a fortnight and hoped to get back by about June 5th. They were coming on a Steamer of the Orient Line from Australia calling at Naples then going straight to Plymouth.  There was much discussion about where JPG and C should live in London and the inference was that Emily and Ellen would live with them and they would rent out their house in Eldon Road. 

There are no surviving letters from the time they returned to England.   In the1881 census Emily is listed with the family at a Hotel in Brighton.  Annie Falcon was visiting Isabella and Arthur in St Helens; probably she was there as Isabella’s third child was born the following month. Ellen was staying with Annie’s children,  Mary, Isabel and Charles Falcon at 10 Campden House Road, Kensington,  presumably as their mother was away with Isabella.

1880    3/5       16 Grenville Place      Portman Square

The only note I have of Mr Green’s case is the following. It appears that it was in consultation with Dr Cayley (Cahill?) – May 3rd 1879

Mr Justice Green age 49 – 16 years in India. Sallow complexion tending to fatty deposit. Heart’s action weak – no enlargement of liver upwards; but slightly full downwards! – Tongue clean. Bowels irregular says he takes aperients pills occasionally. Had had hard work in Bombay as a barrister – less since he became a judge, never had fever or dysentery – says he had some symptoms of paresis [incomplete paralysis, affecting muscular motion but not sensation] during the rains of 1865 & again in 1866 after very hard work! – urine not copious slightly phosphate. Had gout in his foot in 1866 which lasted three weeks but did not actually confine him to the house.  I prescribed a saline bitter laxative occasionally – no sherry, moderate exercise as little work as possible – get leave when possible & come away. He urged the absolute necessity of returning to India then!

J Fayser MD              8 March 1880         

1881    3/4       Census: John P. Green, (51) M, born Knutsford, Cheshire, head N K Judge Retired (Rubbed Out), Cuiled (sic) Green, M (32), wife  born Benevento (BS), Italy Charles son (6) born Bombay, India, Henery son (5)born Benevento, Italy, Thilyr, son (3) born Bombay, India, Emily Green sister (52) born Knutsford, Cheshire, Caryee Bayee M (20)M born, India, Serv,        Domestic Servant Sophia Snelling U (24) born Hammersmith, Middlesex, Serv,  Nurse Servant, Annie R. Coe,  M (48) F born London, Middlesex, Visitor,  Marian E.R. Coe U(20)F born London, Middlesex, Visitor, Elenor S. Waburth U (36) F born Hampwholm, York, Visitor,      Elizabeth Coe W (58) born  London, Middlesex, Visitor,

Listed at Kings Road 3 & 4B Queens Hotel, Brighton, Sussex, [RG11/1091/42/31]

1881    3/4       Census: George Sanderson Lynch aged 49 was shown  as a solicitor living at 4 Norfolk Street, St. George Hanover Square with his wife Anna and his daughter Mary Teresa aged 9 who was born in Bombay In 1911 he was 79 living at 91 Philbeach Gardens – he died aged 84 in 1916.  There are letters mentioning that Isabella, Emily and Ellen consulted him about their affairs and he witnessed Mary Ellen’s Will in 1915.  Emily & Mary were by then living at 18 Philbeach Gardens

1882    28/11   John Philip Green drew up his Will.

1883    28/7     Saturday Evening - The earthquake on the island of Ischia took place   in which John Philip Green died. His body was not recovered until late Monday afternoon 30 August.

1883    1/8       Naples 61 Riviera                  

Dear Mifs Green

I did not know your address or should have let you know before this the sad sad calamity which has fallen upon us.  I asked Mr Lynch by telegram to prepare Mifs Ellen Green for the letter which she must have received by this.

Mr & Mrs Green were taking the baths at Casamicciola and we were expecting them back this week and looking forward with such pleasure to their return.  The Monday before the terrible earthquake I took the boys to see their parents and I never remember to have seen Mr Green looking better or happier.  Carlo remained with his father and mother. Cuclio & Philip came back with me to Naples.  On Saturday evening while all the society staying at the Hotel were together  in the music room the most fearful  earthquake known swept the whole island off the earth not a house remained, all swallowed underneath.  Mrs Green was saved after being 3 hours buried under the stones. She has a large wound on the face. Liberal grasses on her arms and is indeed  very poorly.  Carlo who was sleeping in his parent’s room escaped unhurt, But poor dear Mr Green  has been only found yesterday.  I trust he has not suffered and that death was instantaneous. Mrs Green will write as soon as she is able. 

I cannot  [….] my feelings on having to give you this terrible terrible news.  All Naples is in mourning not a house  [………]

The boys feel deeply the loss of their beloved father.  I trust you will prepare Mrs Falcon for the sad bereavement. I can scarcely hold my pain but feel certain your loved brother has made a happy exchange . 37 victims were found close to Mr Green only eleven were saved in the whole room.  Accept my deepest sympathy in your trouble.

Yours truly                       M Clayton

 

1883    3/8       The Times p10 col. f]   Friday  

Mr John Phillip Green, who was killed by the earthquake in the island of Ischia on the 28th ult. was the only son of the Rev. Henry Green late of Knutsford Cheshire who was born in the year 1830.  He studied at University College, London and took his degree of BA at the London University in 1849 and his degree of LLB at the same University in 1853. He entered as a student at the Middle Temple and was called to the Bar in 1856, having carried off the studentship at the Bar Examination and immediately preceding his call.  He left London in 1862 and took up his residency in Bombay, where he at once acquired a very considerable practice, and in the year 1873 he was appointed one of the Judges of the High Court of Judicature of Bombay.  After eight years of close application to his duties as Judge Mr Green was compelled by a paralytic seizure to retire from the Bench and spent most of the remainder of his life in Naples or its neighbourhood.  He was married first to a daughter of Mr Herbert RA and after her death to a daughter of the Marquis Pacca, a member of an ancient Neapolitan family.  Mr Green left Naples about the middle of July for Casamicciola in order to have the benefit of the baths there, and with the intention of staying until the end of the month.  Unfortunately, though the rest of the family are happily saved, he himself was among the thousands who perished in the earthquake.

1883    3/8       Times  Fri Aug 3rd 1883                                                                                  The Mr Green killed was a retired Indian judge, who had recently gone for 3 weeks to the baths with his wife & son. He was standing in the middle of concert room, on the ground floor of the Piccola Sintinilla, when the two upper floors came crashing down into it.  His wife & son, who were sitting with other persons close to one of the walls had a marvellous escape.  The floors fell in such a manner as to leave them buried but uninjured in a kind of cavity.      A Signor & Signorina Segardi were also staying at the Piccola Sintinella at the same time, but it chanced that Signor Sigardi had gone to Ischia that afternoon. Directly he heard the news of the catastrophe he hurried back across the island.  He was stopped at Casamicciola by the cordon of the sentries already placed round.  Desperate with anxiety about his sister, he called out that they might fire if they pleased, but pass he would, & pass he did, while they shouted that he was going to certain death.  Clambering on in the dark over the ruins & calling for his sister, Mrs Green & those buried with her heard his voice out of the silence & replied.   Setting to work with feverish energy, he tore at the ruins until he had made a sufficient aperture to liberate the prisoners, but alas his sister was not one of the number and her body has never been found. Only part of the hotel fell at the first shock.                                                This is a handwritten copy found amongst the Jamison Archive – attached was a small paper cutting which read as follows:                                                                                              NAPLES   Monday  The following are the names of the English visitors saved at Casamicciola:  The Rev. Mr Barff, wife and one child, Miss More, Mrs Dombre, Doctor Stoddard, Colonel MacKenzie, Mrs Green, reported dead yesterday, was rescued with her daughter  from the ruins after two hours digging, but her husband, a retired Indian Judge was found dead.  Lord John Hay offered the services of the squadron now lying at Corfu, which were thankfully declined.                                   

1883    4/8    61 Riviera di Chiaja(?) 4 Aug 83        (written about 11th)                                      [This letter was written in French and was translated in 2013 by John Catlow husband of Marilyn – JPG’s g.g.g.grandaughter]                                                                                                   

Dearest Emily,                                                                                                                              I have not had the courage or the strength, until this moment, to write to you but I assure you that in my heart I have often been near to you and I should have wished to say a thousand things about our beloved departed.  He is without doubt in heaven Emily dear and from him I await protection and wellbeing for you, his dear sisters and for the three poor little ones that he has left on the earth.  Our separation has been most cruel and I am so very upset by the terrible event which has taken away my husband that I can still hardly make out what is, and what isn’t true.  The children speak of their father with the greatest certitude that he is in heaven and prays for them and baby said to me the other day “when Papa was well he could only see us when we were with him but now that he is in heaven he sees us everywhere and I shall never again be wicked.”  Poor dear, if you could see how the three surround me with their tenderness, it is extremely touching and a veritable balm for my soul.  You will know already, perhaps, that Mr Lynch has been chosen by Philippe as tutor for our children. I am happy in this choice because I do not know any man in the world more honest and more dedicated.  It is with him that I shall decide what best to do for my children and as soon as that is decided, I shall write to you.  I have written a description of our calamity to Mr Lynch begging him to let you read it because I have not got the strength to write again.  Give a tender kiss from me to dear Annie and her children.  What a lovely letter Emma wrote to Carlo and I believe that he has understood all the gravity of it.                                                                                                                          Have courage, Emily dear and may we love each other.                                                  All yours,  Cecilia Green                                                                                                

1883    Undated letter from Ellen    4 Campden Grove                                                      Darling Emily & Annie                                                                                                          

Do not be too grieved over Cecilia’s letter.  I mean the sleepless frightened state for who can wonder?  & we must hope and pray for her,  It is very …..of her to say not one word of her own bruises & to think of dear Philip’s gain.  I am always thinking of him in heaven. My dear sisters. I do love you.                                                         Affectionately.   Ellen                                                                                                                 I am nearly ready to go to Ischia. (From a letter by Mrs Clayton I do not think Ellen went to Italy as the doctor and her family thought it would be better if not as they thought it would increase Cecilia’s distress)                                                               

1883    7/8       (Copy of Cecilia’s letter to Mr Lynch)          61 Riviera de Chiaga  My dear Mr Lynch                                                                                                                                      I have not written to you before though I wished very much to do so because the shock has been so great that I could not for a time put order in my ideas.  I can assure you that I am now quite well in health my bruises & scratches are getting all right & begin to have some rest at night.  On the first nights I was out of my bed nearly every five minutes always in fear of a new earthquake or thinking that people were calling me for help. As I am sure that you are anxious to hear the particulars of that awful night I shall try to give you an idea of it.  We had all been dinning & as there were several people come from Ischia we all got into the drawing room next to the dinning room & an Englishman had the funniest idea of playing a funeral march.  I remember to have said to a lady sitting near me that the gentleman had not been very fortunate in the choice of his music. Filippo was then near me but as he could not stop long at the same place he had just changed & this has been his death as my brother in law who sat at his place near me has been saved. The music ceased all in sudden we heard a terrible rombo & at the same time I saw masses of  […] turning round in the air the lamp came down & for one only moment I lost conscience of what was happening    Once back to my senses I found myself buried among the stones with one very heavy one weighing on my temples.  We were seven in the same corner of the room what saved us was the opposite wall did not fall.  At first we called one another but I never heard Filippo’s voice so that my hope is that my poor husband died at once & did not suffer agonies.  Poor Filippo was so nice affectionate & calm all the time he was at Casamicciola that I was in hope that the baths would do him great deal of good.   Now my hope is that dear Filippo has had time to make an act of contrition & that God has taken as expiation for him the sufferings of these last years & that he is now happier than any of us.   I am sure that Anna & you will never forget him in your prayers.   After we had been two hours under the stones we heard a man’s voice so we begun to call for help & Sigr  Sergardi […] came to save his sister took from us the big stone that prevented our getting out & helped us to come out.   I was the 2nd person saved & gave as much help as I could to the others who were buried with me we were 7 all alive but a young lady who was lying on her mother’s lap was found dead. Sergardi & I begun to take off the stones hoping to get some other  person out but we were very unfortunate & we run off for help   I first went to my Carlo’s bedroom which room was on the same floor that the drawing room & I cannot describe the sentiment of joy & gratitude that filled my heart towards God when I saw Carlo sleeping as comfortable as possible in his little bed.  I woke him up but he was so sleepy that I was obliged to take him in my arms & rush into the street where I left him in the care of a German gentleman who was in a safe place & I went back to the drawing room to see if I could be of any help to Sergardi & find (her) sister & also my poor dear Filippo.   We were about five hours without any assistance from outside.   Our man servant & all the hotel servants rushed off to a safe place & stayed there the whole night though they perfectly heard our cry of distress.   At six o’clock some workmen came & as our help was useless I rushed off to see for Carlo.   I found him walking very quietly among the ruins he was in his night clothes without shoes.  As soon as we understood that our stay at the Sentinela was a useless danger we walked down to the sea & no one that has not been there can have an idea of the terrible spectacle we saw all along the way not one bit of road free from ruins.  At 4 o’clock the news came to Naples that Casamicciola was one mountain of ruins & that no one was saved.  My brother started at once for Casem to find us if not alive at least to recover our bodies & try to have them properly buried. When he arrived Carlo & I had already embarked with all the people who had been saved & a quantity of wounded.  Fortunately some friend of mine told my brother that Carlo & myself had come safe to Naples & hearing that Filippo was yet to be found rushed at the Piccola Sentinella getting with him a troop of Marines but before he had reached the place quantity of the men had been stopped on the way to give assistance to the people lying on the roads & that is how it is that the disinterment at the P S lasted three days.  On the 2nd day among several dead bodies they found a man alive but on the third all dead.  While they were taking poor dear Filippo out a big piece of the wall came down & the workmen were saved by miracle. They begun again & it was not before 6 o’clock in the afternoon that poor dear Filippos body was taken from under the ruins.  Orazio tells me that Filippo had a big hole just right on the head & blood from his mouth so that it is more than certain that his death has been sudden.  He wanted to have dear Filippo here to have it buried at the cemetery but all Arazio’s prayers were useless as the authorities would not allow it fearing the cholera. Orazio knows  […] where the coffin has been interred & as soon as it will be allowed I shall have it brought here. Imagine dear Lynch that if Filippo had gone to bed as usual he would have been saved from such a terrible death.  Our bedroom though much cracked were standing up all right & if the earthquake had taken place 5 minutes before no one would have suffered a bit as the dinning room was intact.  Our drawing room was on the ground floor at the same level than the garden & when the earthquake took place we stopped where we were but on the three quarter of the room the two above stories came down & were the cause of the death of 36 people in the room as also a great difficulty to take the people out as the workmen could work only from above the room having no under issue.  Dear Mr Lynch I have given you all these particulars certain that they would interest you but I should be much obliged if you would send my letter to be read to my sisters in law as I have no strength to do it over again.  I shall write to you again tomorrow to send you the papers you ask me for.  I cannot thank you enough for your affection & to have thought about the Masses for my poor dear Filippo                My love to Anna & ask her to pray for Filippo & also for us all.    Cecilia Green                                                                                                      1883    8/8       61  Riviera de Chiaja   Naples               

 [In view of Ellen’s letter above I assume this was written to her and not Emily]       

 Dear Mifs Green                                                                                                                      As Mrs Green is still very poorly, after the fearful shock she has had I hasten to acknowledge the receipt of your letter of the 3rd.     I’ve hope after a little time & quiet she will regain her strength and spirits.  The Doctor has especially forbidden any new emotion.   Mifs Pacca and her brothers are staying with Mrs Green, and her mother arrives tomorrow from Rome.  It is feared your arrival here would renew again the dreadful moments she has passed through.                                                                        The boys are quite well, they often speak of their dear father. Carlo is the one I find resembles poor Mr Green most.  I cannot tell you how much we all miss your poor brother his sweet intelligent countenance    Oh! it is difficult to accustom oneself to his absence.  I wrote to you immediately I received your telegram and directed to you at Hotel Pillou.                                                                                                                Kindly remember me to Mrs Falcon                     Yours truly           Mary S Clayton                                              1883    19/8     61  Riviera de Chiaja   Naples                                                                        Dear Mifs Green                                                                                                                           I would have replied to your letter before this but that Mrs Green told me she was writing to you herself.  Your poor dear brother was not found till 5 o’clock on Monday evening and it was then strictly forbidden to remove the bodies, had he been taken out on Sunday Mrs Green’s brother had a special permission to take the dear remains away.  Mr Green had a large hole in the head and was very much swollen. He was in the midst of about 30 persons.  Mrs Green’s brother in law [….] was also there and escaped with a fractured leg.                                                                                     Carlo was at the time in bed, and sleeping soundly where his mother awoke him he therefore remembers nothing whatever of the earthquake.  He is growing very tall and is most studious, he resembles his father more than the others.  Little Philip is such a handsome boy, very intelligent and I find he speaks much more distinctly than his brothers.  Mrs Green’s wound on the face is healed, but it will be some time before she recovers the shock.  I shall never forget that fatal Sunday when she & Carlo came back.  The latter in his night shirt without boots.  Mrs Green all bleeding no bonnet her dress torn to pieces.  The 28th July will be always a sad sad remembrance in Naples    [this appears to be the only surviving sheet]

1883    8/9       Letter written by Cecilia Green from 61 Riviera de Chiaja Naples                  My Dear Emily                                                                                                                             I write to you a few lines hoping that it will reach you.  My last letter was addressed at Sallanga poste restaurante but I am afraid that it has gone lost as you don’t speak in your letter of Sallanga. I am sorry that it is so as you will think that I have been much a long time without writing. We are all very well the boys are still having sea baths and dear Philip lessons soon nearly as well as his two other brothers I am rather busy just now with the change of house. I am furnishing it myself & so have a quantity of things to buy and this present week will be dedicated to this business.  We shall also have Saolina’s wedding on the 18th next month on account of my deep mourning the ceremony will be restricted to Father, Mother brothers and sisters on both sides & the reception will take place at my sister Julia’s house. I am late for mass so I have to say good bye.      Love to all of you from your affectionate          Cecilia Green.                                                                                           1883    29/10   Probate of the Will of John Phillip Green was granted £19,587 resworn March 1884 £20,157.10d.                                                                                                           This is the last Will of me John Philip Green of the Middle Temple, London Esquire Barrister at law late one of the Judges of Her Majesty’s High Court at Bombay. I appoint my friends John Thornely of the Middle Temple London Esquire Barrister at Law and George Sanderson Lynch of the City Of London Solicitor to be executors of this my will.  I bequeath to my dearly beloved wife Cecilia Green five hundred pounds to be paid to her immediately after my decease  I bequeath to my dear sisters Emily Green and Mary Ellen Green one hundred pounds each  I bequeath to His Eminence Henry Edward Manning Cardinal Archbishop or the person who at the time of my decease shall be the Roman Catholic Archbishop officiating at Westminster one hundred pounds  And as to all my moneys stocks shares bonds securities and other personal estate not above disposed of including my life insurance policy for five hundred pounds No 11107 with the Guardian Assurance Company I bequeath the same to my executors in trust to convert the same into money but with power to permit all any part thereof to remain in the same state of investment as at my death and after payment of my debts funeral and testamentary expense and legacies to invest the remaining monies in the name of the said executors and with power to vary the investments at discretion  And I direct that my said executors as trustees of my will shall stand possessed of my said residuary personal estate and the investments thereof as aforesaid in trust to pay the dividends interest and annual income thereof to my said wife during her life and from and after her decease in trust …….to pay to or divide the same between my children or such one of more of them as shall live to attain the age twenty one years to be divided between them equally ……I direct that the trustees of this my Will may at discretion apply any part not exceeding one half of the share of any child whether vest or contingent in or for the  placing out preferment or advantage of such child but no such application shall be made during my wife’s life except with her consent. I appoint my wife to be Guardian of our children during minority and in case of her decease I appoint the said George Sanderson Lynch to be such Guardian. And I direct that all my children shall be bought up and educated as members of the Holy Catholic and Roman Church of which I myself am a member. I direct that the said George Sanderson Lynch may notwithstanding his being an executor and trustee of this my Will transact and charge for transacting any legal business relating to my Will or to my estate in the same manner as if he were not an executor or trustee.  Witness my hand 28 November 1882. Witnesses Edward Colegrave 6 Mansfield Street Portland Place London   Saml Blanch Clerk to Messrs Slaughter & Colegrave 6 Mansfield Street Portland Place London Solicitors.              1891    5/4  Census:  Cecilia Green does not appear to have been in the UK.                      1891    5/4  Census:  All three boys are listed as boarders at Beaumont,  The College, Old Windsor  Charles Green (16) Born East Indies,  Henry Green (15) Born Italy British Subject,  Philip Green (13) Born East Indies.[RG12/1013/122

1894  Lowndes Street,   S.W.   [sent to Cliftonville Hotel Margate 1894  from postmark on envelope]

Dearest Evie

Yesterday we went to Westminster Abbey as I saw Mr Hitchcock was preaching. It was beautiful & the Abbey looked lovely.  In the afternoon we paid calls on Aunts Emily & Ellen & Cecilia.  The former have asked you all to play tennis next Friday & Aunt Cecilia to go to them to lunch on Saturday & then play tennis.  Cuccio had gone back to Sandhurst before we arrived.  He is very well and enjoying himself very much at Sandhurst.  Philip begins his hospitals this October

1901  31/3  Census:  Celia Green widow Head (55) born Italy Benevento living on own means, Philip Green son (25) born Bombay India Medical Student, Maude Falcon (33) niece born Valeroyal  Cheshire living on own means and two boarders living at 6 Vere Street Marylebone [RG13/105/66/13]                                                                                                                          1902  5/8  Phillip Anthony Mark Green became MRCS Eng. LRCP London                                               .                                                                                                                            1902  30/7  Extract from a letter of Cecilia Green’s from Siena after seeing Emma’s pictures [Emma Falcon became a Nun 1893] found amongst a collection of cards made for Isabella and Arthur Jamison by their children when young [in the large brown suitcase under the bed in study at Bristol] ……” I am so glad that Maud has sent me the letter from the Superior of Shanghai, the nuns have asked me to translate for them any letter with particulars of Emma’s last illness & now I shall be able to do so.  I saw several of her works. One is a Christ in shepherds clothes painted on the door of the tabernacle it is exquisitely done a more pretentious work is the panel of the Altar representing Christ in the arms of our Lady of Dolaro after the descent of the Cross. The face of the Madonna bears the right sorrowful expression & the whole thing is really very good.  We saw also three panels from Fra Angelica’s shop which she painted & presented to the Superior on her feast day I only wish it was mine so lovely it is.  It represents our Lady with the infant Jesus in her arms & on the side panels the two Saints of the order. Dear Emma was a very great favourite with everyone of the sisters but there is a small very old little French nun who is simply devoted to her.  I shall ask Maud to send her a little souvenir among the last belongings of Emma.”   

1903  The Medical Register. Phillip Anthony Mark Green listed at 13 Wemyss Road, Blackheath                                                                                                        

1906  12/5  Cutting from The Gentlewoman May 12 1906                                                      Miss Winifred Merton Smith daughter of Wm Alex Smith of Tay Bank Helensburgh N.B. married Mr Charles Francis Green son of the late Philip Green Judge of the Supreme Court of India at the Church of St Michael and All Angels, Helensburgh on April 26th. Best Man was Dr Philip Green his brother. (JJA).                                                                                       1906 26/4  at St Michael & All Angels Church after banns according to the terms of the Scot ….  Church Charles Frances Joseph Green District Officer Colonial Civil Service bachelor aged 31 of Taybank Helensburgh son of Philip Green Judge of the Supreme Court (India) deceased and Cecilia Green m.s. Pacca married Winifred Merton Smith aged 22  of Taybank Helensburgh daughter of William Alexander Smith Farm Merchant & Christine Mary Smith m s Lane witnessed Philip Anthony Green and Gladys E Smith                                                                                                1910  17/1  Extract of letter written by Isabella to Evie from The White Gate, Bushey Heath, Herts.                                                                                                                                         “It is comfortable & peaceful and Mrs Campbell very kind. She has persuaded me to try the bath room & I like it very much. It is a very nice bath next door to my room & lovely hot water.  Mrs Harris & a friend of hers came to tea yesterday. Very pleasant people.  Mrs Harris used to live at Bombay & knew Uncle Philip & Aunt Cecilia a little – but her sister is Mr […] 2nd wife & he & his first wife were great friends of Uncle Philip’s & Aunt Ellen’s.”                                                                                1910  7/5  Extract of letter written from Isabel to Evie “Your letter has just come written before you knew about the King’s death. It seems sudden & awful but Philip (who has just been) seems to know that he has been in a very precarious state of health for some time.” The rest of the letter was all about getting black coats or material for mourning.  At the end she said that Philip was going for dinner that evening.                                                                                                                      1910    28/10   The Morning Post                                                                                             Mr C.F.J. Green is to succeed Mr C.V. Dyson as Registrar of the Supreme Court District Judge and Magistrate of Malacca Straits Settlements.                                                              1911    Medical Directory. Phillip Anthony Mark Green listed at 37 Onslow Square, South Kensington.                                                                                                                            1911  2/4  Census:  Cecilia Green (65) widow was listed as a resident, occupation Nun,  at Gensing Lodge St. Leonards Hastings born Italy Naples. It listed her as a widow married 38 years had 3 children and that 3 children had died. As this information is incorrect the details were probably filled in by perhaps the enumerator as the sheet was signed by Ann Mary Darling who does not appear in the entry. They were all listed as Nuns so presumably a Roman Catholic Retreat.                                                                                                             1911  2/4  Census:  Philip Green, head single (33) born Bombay India, Medical Practioner, Henry Douglas Larymore married (42) born Bengal India Colonial Civil Service Late R.A. Constance Larymore married 13 years (38) born Ounsborune York, Francis Pickering (29) Parlour Maid, Lucy Gaffe (24) Cook living at 37 Onslow Square, South Kensington [RG14PN114 RG78PN4 RD2 SD1 ED27 SN156]                                                                                                                         1911  2/4  Census: Theresa Roma Scott (42) born 1869 London with two of her three children Rosemary (7) born Portsmouth and Douglas (4) born London was living at 56 Draycott Place.  Her husband Sir Percy Moreton Scott, Vice Admiral petitioned for divorce on account of her adultery with Philip Green in Paris – he was awarded custody of the children. [NA J77/1037/1439]                                                                                                       1911  13/12  Son Philip Anthony Mark Green aged 34 bachelor Actor of 36 Cambridge Street, Belgravia son of Philip Green (deceased) Judge High Court of Justice India married at the Register office  at St George Hanover Square Theresa Roma Scott formerly Dixon Hartland Spinster aged 43 The divorced wife of Percy Moreton Scott of 62 Artillery Mansions Westminster daughter of Frederick Dixon-Hartland (deceased) First Baronet .

 

1915    Philip Anthony Mark Green enrolled in the Royal Army Medical Corps

1915    12/6     Extract from a letter written by Isabel Jamieson to her daughter Evie

“We have had a bundle of Henry’s journals & several letters from Pellie. Henry had had fever and had been to […] to recruit. They have not enough men nor ammunition so avoid fighting though they seem to keep a very good look out & choose good positions for making camp &c &c The water is the great difficulty but they had found some good for the camp.”

1916  28/5  Extract from letter from Isabelle to Evie.  “On Thursday I went to see Aunt Cecelia who was at the Lynches for 2 nights. She looks ill & thin & is much worried about business as she says she knows nothing about it.  Fortunately Philip is in London & will do all he can. Mr Thornely is resigning his trusteeship as he is not well enough to come in to London though perfectly clear in his mind.  Mr Petre (Mr L’s partner) is to be a trustee & I think Philip, but it is not unlikely that Carlo may come to England in August for a year.  I will tell you about it when we meet as it wd take too long to write, but he has been writing a paper on Malay affairs which is considered very able & it is some way connected with this.  Aunt C is very anxious about Harry.  The old trouble, for which he had to have an operation just before they went to B.E.A. has cropped up again & he has been in hospital at Zanzibar for another operation, he is recovering, but they don’t want it to heal too quickly & he is in a fidget lest he should not be able to go to the front when Gen. Smuts great advance takes place.  Philip has got an appointment in a hospital in Bethnal Green & they will be living in London.  He came in while I was with Aunt C & looks ill & rather worn he is not fit to go abroad again.  I fancy he went through a good deal at the Dardenelles & is not strong, but he was very anxious still to do some work”

Later in the letter “Aunt Cecilia told me that Orazio is with an ambulance at the Italian front. When Italy joined the allies the Grand Master went to consult the Pope what he shd do (He is an Austrian from the […]). The Pope said he thought it would be very difficult for him in Rome & advised him to go to Switzerland. This he did but they have heard nothing from him since & do not know what he is doing. “.

1917  11/5  Extract from a letter written from Isabella  to Evie “Aunt Cecelia has sent me long letter from Harry & Edith. Harry has been very busy training recruits and doing a great deal of office work as with native [..] the men cannot write or read and all has to be done by the officers, the young officers sent from England know no language so are not much help at first”

1918  3/2  [New York Passenger Lists 1820-1857 (Ancestory.com)]

Henry Edward Green arrived in New York on the Carmania born about 1875 in Benevento Italy he was aged 41 years 10 months.

1918  11/3  Extract from a letter from Isabelle Jamison to her daughter Evelyn

 “I had a PC from Aunt C saying she has heard from Harry at New York. He had a rough but quick passage – only 6 days and has had no return of fever.”

1918 5/12  Letter written by Henry E Green from Prince of Wales Hospital to his cousin Evelyn Jamieson.

My dear Evelyn

I got discharged from here 1.X11.18 only to be obliged to return at 5.30 pm of the same day and go to bed with fever where I am still. I am so excited at having got just now “the book”.  Thank you so much for it. I dived into the first 10 or 12 pages and think it is splendid. I like your style and I shall be awfully sorry when I get to the end of 1250 ad.  I am certain that Pellie will be as pleased as I am; it is so nice to get back to those days where you know what the results of people’s actions is going to be – it gives one a sense of superiority which will be impossible in this epoch until this was is over when I suppose everyone excepting the blatant prophets will be able to emerge and say “I told you so” and return to one’s feeling of security.  I am certain I am going to get a great deal of “glory” (what I think Humpty Dumpty called knockdown argument) out of your book, especially part as there is nothing so good in argument as a statement fact no-one knows about but is afraid to show [..]of – where I say there is nothing so good I err – strong, piercing voice is the strongest of all arguments – of a hereditary legislator survived a weak voice & his 1st predecessor probably had a strong one – I thank you really ever so much for the book. Please give my love to your mother. It was so nice to see you both again the other day – please remember me to Kit, I was so sorry to have missed her.

Yours very sincerely     Henry E Green

1919  31/5  Extract from a letter to Isabella to Ellen “Carlo and Winifred and the children & Ruth Smith are at Browns Hotel – since yesterday – Aunt C says “at a colossal price” but nowhere else was to be had. They go to Aunt C on Monday I think. I have asked them to come to tea here this afternoon or tomorrow & said I wd ask the rest of the family when I heard from them – so far I have heard nothing so I don’t suppose they will come today”

1919  1/6  Extract from a letter from Isabelle Jamison to her daughter Evelyn

“Carlo & Winy Have arrived but we have not seen them”  

1919  The Medical Register:

Phillip Mark Anthony Green listed at Via Sebeto 1 Milan Italy

1920 18/12  Extract of letter written by Isabella to Evie from 14 Cecil Court, Hollywood Road, S W 10.    Dec 18 1920

My darling Evie

“We were so glad to have your P.C. last night from Benevento dated Dec 13 and to know that you were having such an interesting and successful time in the Archives.  I suppose you will have left Benevento by now.  I wonder where you are going? I rather hope Naples as I fancy it would be pleasanter for Xmas than some of the little places where perhaps the archives might be closed.”

1921  21/1  Philip Anthony Mark Green applied for his WWI Service Medals and his address was given as 20 Piazza Dispague Roma, Italy.

1922  New York Passenger Lists: Henry Edward Green aged 41 years 10 months born 1876 Benevento Italy sailed from Liverpool on the Carmania to New York. Last permanent resident British E.Africa Nairobi, mother Mrs Green, Gensing Lodge, St Leonards on Sea Sussex. Friend Juans Weston Final destination. E.Africa non immigrant [ref: T715_2563 p.275]

1924  20/1  Letter from Henry Green from Zomba

Dear Aunt Isabel

Thank you so much for your letter which we enjoyed very much.  My work as a builder of clock towers and as a fitter of clocks is finished successfully and on the 15th Jan we had the opening ceremony.  We had no religious ceremony as the native soldiers who died were in greater part either Mahometans or Pagans and the few Christians amongst them belonged to so many different denominations that it was thought better to do without one.  However I managed to work out a ceremonial drill that everyone says was as impressive as anything could be.  The men entered into the spirit of everything and it really went very well indeed.

I am sending you a programme of the opening ceremony.  I designed and drew the programme myself and had it printed in Capetown.  I have been selling them at 2/6 a time so that I am making a little money for the fund as well.  We shall be home about the middle of April and will come and look you up at once and give all our news.  Our love to you my dear Aunt and Evie and Kit.  I am so glad Reg is getting on so well.  Had we be going home via Capetown we should certainly have gone to see him.

Your affectionate nephew,  Henry Green

1925  26/9      Cecilia Green of The Convent, Wilford Lane, West Bridgford Nottinghamshire widow died aged 83 Probate granted 26 September to Sebastian Henry Petre Esq. She left £587.15.11d.

I Cecilia Green of Gensing Lodge Maze Hill St Leonards on Sea Sussex widow hereby revoke all former dispositions. I appoint my son Philip and Sebastian Henry Petre of 48 Albemarle Street Westminster executors. I bequeath all my real and personal estate to my executors  and after my funeral expenses and debts and legacies bequeathed  upon trust for all my children in equal shares. I give the following legacies to my grandchildren Molly Green and Nigel Green £5 each to Miss Anna Maria Lynch and Miss Mary Teresa Lynch £10 each to my maid Annie Ada Ward if still in my service at the time of my death £10 to Mrs Lucy Tweed of 14 Agate Road Hammersmith £10 to the Reverend Mother Superior for the time being of the Convent Gensing Lodge £5 and my walnut wardrobe. Signed 21 April 1921 witnessed Anne Maria Dowling Superior Gensing Lodge Convent St Leonards on Sea  and Adeline Chaumont Asst.  Gensing Lodge Convent St Leonards on Sea. Probate was grand 26 September 1925 to Sebastian Henry Petre.

[Anna born 1868 in Kensington and Mary born 1881 in Bombay were the daughters of George Sanderson Lynch a solicitor who in 1911 was living in 91 Philbeach Gardens which is where Emily and Ellen Green lived.  Mr Lynch was mentioned many times in the letters and dealt with the family affairs. He was born in 1832.  He was executor of John Phillips Will]

 

 

Charles Francis, Henry Edward, Philip Mark Anthony Green

 

[This picture was taken in Tunbridge Wells, Kent – I estimate the boys are about 10,9 & 8.

There is a painting by Emily Green of Groombridge Place, Tunbridge Wells in the Jamieson collection and I have a note that the Winkworth’s (a family with whom the Green’s were friendly) had some Aunts living in the Town]

 

 

 

CHARLES FRANCIS (JOSEPH) GREEN

 

1875    2/4   Charles Francis (Joseph) son of John Philip & Cecilia Green was born in Bombay

1881    3/4       Census: listed with his parents and Aunt Emily Green – Charles Green son (6) born Bombay, India at Kings Road 3 & 4B Queens Hotel, Brighton, Sussex.

1883    28/7     Father John Philip Green was killed in the earthquake in the island of Ischia.

Mother Cecilia was trapped under rubble for several hours until rescued – JPG was not found for about three days – only part of the building collapsed.  Extract from a letter Cecilia wrote some days after the event. 

“I first went to my Carlo’s bedroom which room was on the same floor as the drawing room & I cannot describe the sentiment of joy & gratitude that filled my heart towards God when I saw Carlo sleeping as comfortable as possible in his little bed.  I woke him up but he was so sleepy that I was obliged to take him in my arms & rush into the street where I left him in the care of a German gentleman who was in a safe place & I went back to the drawing room to see if I could be of any help to Sergardi & find (her) sister & also my poor dear Filippo” 

1883    19/8     Letter written by Margaret Clayton (the children’s nanny) to Emily Green

Dear Miss Green                    61  Riviera de Chiaja   Naples

I would have replied to your letter before this but that Mrs Green told me she was writing to you herself.  Your poor dear brother was not found till 5 o’clock on Monday evening and it was then strictly forbidden to remove the bodies, had he been taken out on Sunday Mrs Green’s brother had a special permission to take the dear remains away.  Mr Green had a large hole in the head and was very much swollen. He was in the midst of about 30 persons.  Mrs Green’s brother in law [….] was also there and escaped with a fractured leg.

Carlo was at the time in bed, and sleeping soundly where his mother awoke him he therefore remembers nothing whatever of the earthquake.  He is growing very tall and is most studious; he resembles his father more than the others.  Little Philip is such a handsome boy, very intelligent and I find he speaks much more distinctly than his brothers.  Mrs Green’s wound on the face is healed, but it will be some time before she recovers the shock.  I shall never forget that fatal Sunday she & Carlo came back.  The latter in his night shirt without boots.  Mrs Green all bleeding no bonnet her dress torn to pieces.  The 28th July will be always a sad sad remembrance in Naples.

1891    5/4       Census:   Charles Green (16) Born East Indies listed as boarder at Beaumont The College, Old Windsor, as were his brothers [RG12/1013/122]

1898    Nov     Appointed a Cadet in the Malaysian Civil Service by the Secretary of State

1900    March  Actg. District Officer, Province Wellesley

1901    June    Actg. 4th Magistrate Singapore

1901    Represented Colony and F.M.S. at Cricket in Hong Kong.   Won S.C.C. Tennis Championship

 

1906    26/4     Married Winifred Merton Smith at St Michael & All Angels Church at Ron in Dumbarton Scotland and the following appeared The Gentlewoman  dated May 12 1906.

Miss Winifred Merton Smith daughter of Wm Alex Smith of Tay Bank Helensburgh N.B. married Mr Charles Francis Green son of the late Philip Green Judge of the Supreme Court of India at the Church of St Michael and All Angels, Helensburgh on April 26th. Best Man was Dr Philip Green his brother. (Jamieson Archive).

 

1906    26/4     At St Michael & All Angels Church after banns according to the terms of the Scottish Church Charles Frances Joseph Green District Officer Colonial Civil Service bachelor aged 31 of Taybank Helensburgh son of Philip Green Judge of the Supreme Court (India) deceased and Cecilia Green m.s. Pacca married Winifred Merton Smith aged 22 of Taybank Helensburgh daughter of William Alexander Smith Farm Merchant & Christine Mary Smith m s Lane witnessed Philip Anthony Green and Gladys E Smith

1906    2/7       Magistrate, Singapore

1907    12/2     Molly daughter of Charles & Winifred was born at Goodwood Hill, Singapore. She was brought back to Helensburgh, Scotland when her mother was due to have her brother Nigel, and was left in the care of her grandparents when Winifred returned to Singapore with Nigel.   It is not known where she had her early schooling but she boarded at Roedean for her senior school years.  After school, she returned to Malaysia to live with her parents where she eventually met and married John Huggins in Kuala Lumpur on the 16 March 1929. 

1910    30/4     Son Nigel Charles William Green was born at Taybank, Scotland 

[See further details of Nigel end of section]

 

1910    July     District Judge & Magistrate, Malacca

1910    28/10   The Morning Post

Mr C.F.J. Green is to succeed Mr C.V. Dyson as Registrar of the Supreme Court District Judge and Magistrate of Malacca Straits Settlements.

1913    Nov     Chairman, Sanitary Board, Kuala Lumpur

1921    Deputy President, Singapore Fisheries

1922    April   Gavin Joseph Buckle Green son of Charles and Winifred born Singapore

1922    15/7     Mr C F Green of the Malay Civil Service aged 46 going to Taybank with Mrs Green aged 37 going to Helensburgh and master Green 3/12 going to Scotland arrived on the Khyber of the Peninsula & Orient Steam Navigation Co.Ltd. at Plymouth from Singapore

 

Charles Francis Joseph Green J.P.  Malayan Civil Service: Recreations Tennis and Golf. Club Singapore Club etc. Address Director of Fisheries, Singapore  S.S. 

[Information regarding CFJG’s career received in 2010 from someone researching Judges in Singapore.]

1925    26/9     Mother Cecilia Green of The Convent, Wilford Lane, West Bridgford Nottinghamshire widow died aged 83. Probate granted 26 September to Sebastian Henry Petre Esq  She left £587.15.11d.  In her will she left Molly and Nigel £5 each.

1926  Pamela daughter of Charles & Winifred born

1943    4/3       Charles Francis Joseph Green otherwise Charles Green of 17 Penleonard Close, Exeter died aged 67.  Probate Llandudno 10 May to Winifred Merton Green.

Effects £350.11s.ld in England

 

 

Molly Green 1907-1983       

 

Molly daughter of Charles & Winifred was born 12 February at Goodwood Hill, Scotland.

After school, she returned to Malaysia to live with her parents where she eventually met and married John Huggins in Kuala Lumpur on the 16 March 1929.  He was in the Malayan Civil Service early in his career. He was created a K.C.M.G in 1943 and became Sir John, and was the Captain-General and Governor-in-Chief Jamaica 1843-51. They had three daughters: 

Diana Mary born 30 Dec 1929 married 15 Mar 1950  Donald McKinney; widowed; married 2nd Philip Harari.  Cherry Felicity born 4 Dec.1933 married 2 June 1960 Peter Twiss, he was  Fairey’s chief test pilot and sometime the World Airspeed Holder. They had one daughter, Miranda born in the December quarter 1961. Their marriage was dissolved and Twiss remarried in 1964.  Cherry married 2nd Charles Hambro.  Ruth Sylvia born 26 July 1937 married J.W.Abel-Smith. Divorced; married 2nd Harry Fitzgibbon

1958   Star News July 1st        Lady Huggins Says Sir John Has Left Her. London (AP).

Lady Molly Huggins said today her husband, Sir John, former Governor of Jamaica, has run off to Italy with another women. “If he will come home, I will forgive him,” she told newsmen “But if he stays away I am going to have to think of a divorce”.  Lady Huggins said the other woman is Mrs Margaret Hitchcock, owner of a dress shop near the Huggins home in Farnham, Surrey. Sir John is 66 and a grandfather.  Mrs Hitchcock, whose husband works for a telegraph company, is in her 40s and has a daughter.   “And I,” said Lady Molly, “am 50. Isn’t it awful?”   Lady Molly said Sir John and Mrs. Hitchcock have been traced to a hotel in Rapallo. To make matters worse, Italy is where he took Lady Molly on their honeymoon 29 years ago.  “He is being very silly,” said Lady Huggins. “I don’t think I shall follow him to Italy.  I don’t suppose he will be there long. He’s a little old for that sort of thing.”  Sir John and his wife have three grown daughters, one of whom has three children.  Lady Molly said she had bought dresses from Mrs Hitchcock and had entertained the woman and her husband.  She said some of the Huggins friends seemed to think that “Mrs Hitchcock is not of the same class as us.”  “But that’s nonsense,” said Lady Molly.  “I don’t care if she ran a shop or was a duchess. I don’t care I’m no snob.”  Hitchcock said he was bewildered. “My wife and I have been married for a long time and we have a young daughter.” He said.

“How can I explain this to her?”  They obviously divorced as Sir John married Margaret Hitchcock in the December quarter of 1958 at Alton.  Molly remarried in 1962 Peter Smith

She died at home from liver cancer in 1983 at Great Peter Street, Westminster. 

 

 

 

 

 

Nigel Charles William Green   1910-1973

Nigel Green

 

1910    30/4     Nigel Charles William Green son of Charles & Peggy was born at Taybank, Scotland.  The family went out to Malaysia and when he was five he was brought back to live with his Scottish grandparents.  From age seven, he spent the rest of his childhood at boarding schools – he went to Loretto.  He did not see his parents again until they returned permanently to the UK when he was fourteen bringing with them another very young brother and sister (Gavin and Pam).  According to his daughter Marilyn, Nigel never looked back about anything, and her memory of him was that yesterday was history.  “Except for his mother (Carlo's wife) who he loved, she never heard him talk about his immediate family, never mind his Green/Jamieson great aunts!  

Canadian Passenger Lists 1865-1938

1934    23/3     Nigel Green left Glasgow arriving in Halifax Nova Scotia Canada 30 March

Business & Journalism and authorship.  Stuart Straghy 54 Clarendon Avenue, Toronto Ontario.   Father’s address.  Charles Francis Green, Cleverly Cambridge Park, Guernsey, Channel Islands. Passport No  56107 London May 6 1925 Renewed

Canadian Passenger Lists 1865-1938

1937    20/5     Left Montreal Quebec as an Assistant Steward arriving in Glasgow 23 May. He was 28 and his address was Cleveley, Guernsey, Channel Islands

1938    Jan       Married Sheila Marguerite (Peggy) Halford Kensington.  She was born 15 Feb 1913 and died 6 October 2004

1938       Christopher C.D. Green son of Nigel and Peggy was born Kensington

1939   When war was declared Nigel enlisted with the Argyle and Southern Highlanders. He was a lieutenant with No 1 Battalion, No 3 Company. He qualified for training as an officer on the strength of his attachment to the Officers Training Corps whilst at Loretto. He, Peggy and Christopher lived in a flat in Stirling whilst he trained for six months, after which he came in one day and said 'We leave tomorrow'. That was the last time Peggy saw him for five years.  He was sent over to France and was captured almost immediately by the Germans. He had been sent with another officer and a dozen men to secure a piece of land. They had one revolver and one pistol between them all when they found themselves surrounded by enemy tanks and well-armed soldiers. There was nothing to do but surrender. He was sent to Oflag VII B where he was forced to waste his time for five years. The rank and file, sent to Stalag camps, were forced to work. The boredom endured during this time ranked as highly as the hunger.

1945 On his return Nigel farmed at Lower Dicker in Sussex.   Peggy’s sister lived at Five Ashes (Sussex) for fifty years, and then in Alfriston until she died c.2003.

1946    Marilyn daughter of Nigel & Peggy was born in a nursing home in Tunbridge Wells, Kent

1948  The family emigrated to Southern Rhodesia and bought a farm in Macheke, and farmed tobacco, maize and cattle for 24 years.

1948       Daughter Erica born Macheke  (Zimbabwe ) Southern Rhodesia

1951    Daughter Susan born Macheke (Zimbabwe) Southern Rhodesia

1952    Son Simon born Macheke, Southern Rhodesia

1973    23/3     Nigel Charles William Green died at Nottingham

 

 

Gavin Joseph Buckle Green 1922-2011

Born Singapore in 1922 the following was found on the Andrews Card index on Ancestry.

8/4/1944 Gavin Green Lieut.Coldstream,  Guards, younger son of the late Mr. C.F. Green (M.C.S.) and Mrs Green of Guernsey and Lingfield married at Kensington, Erica Ann only daughter of Mrs. Sivewright of Palace Gate.[He was a Lieutenant in the Coldstream Guards at that time and later was  in the Colonial Administrative Service (1949) living at Mbeya]. 20 January 1949 at Mbeya, Tanganyika to Erica Wife of Gavin J.B.Green (Colonial Administration Service a son, Rupert Carlo Buckle Green who died in March

GREEN On March 22, 1949 at Mbeya, Tanganyika, Rupert Carlo Buckle, infant son of Gavin and Erica Green aged 2 months].

 

 

 

 

 

HENRY EDWARD (JOSEPH BARTHOLOMEW) GREEN 

[Who was called ‘chicken’ in the family]

 

1876    19/3     Henry Edward (Joseph Bartholomew) son of John Philip & Cecilia Green was born in Italy.

1881    3/4       Census: listed with his parents and Aunt Emily Green - Henery son (5) born Benevento, Italy, at Kings Road 3 & 4B Queens Hotel, Brighton, Sussex,

1891    5/4       Census:   Henry Green (15) Born Italy British Subject listed as boarder at Beaumont The College, Old Windsor, as were his brothers [RG12/1013/122]

1896-1900      H.E.Green Lieutenant Scottish Rifles Cameronians (2nd Batn). [National Archive Ref: WO76/489/16  WO76/488/29]

1915    12/6     Extract from a letter written by Isabel Jamieson to her daughter Evie

“We have had a bundle of Henry’s journals & several letters from Pellie. Henry had had fever and had been to […] to recruit. They have not enough men nor ammunition so avoid fighting though they seem to keep a very good look out & choose good positions for making camp &c &c The water is the great difficulty but they had found some good for the camp.”

1918    3/2       New York Passenger Lists 1820-1857

Henry Edward Green arrived in New York on the Carmania born about 1875 in Benevento Italy he was aged 41 years 10 months. Occupation Army in Transit to British East Africa Nairobi. Mother Mrs Green Gensing Lodge St Leonards on Sea

 

1918 5/12       Letter written by Henry E Green from Prince of Wales Hospital to his cousin Evelyn Jamieson

My dear Evelyn

I got discharged from here 1.X11.18 only to be obliged to return at 5.30 pm of the same day and go to bed with fever where I am still. I am so excited at having got just now “the book”.  Thank you so much for it. I dived into the first 10 or 12 pages and think it is splendid. I like your style and I shall be awfully sorry when I get to the end of 1250 ad.  I am certain that Pellie will be as pleased as I am; it is so nice to get back to those days where you know what the results of people’s actions is going to be – it gives one a sense of superiority which will be impossible in this epoch until this was is over when I suppose everyone excepting the blatant prophets will be able to emerge and say “I told you so” and return to one’s feeling of security.  I am certain I am going to get a great deal of “glory” (what I think Humpty Dumpty called knockdown argument) out of your book, especially part as there is nothing so good in argument as a statement fact no-one knows about but is afraid to show [..]of – where I say there is nothing so good I err – strong, piercing voice is the strongest of all arguments – of a hereditary legislator survived a weak voice & his 1st predecessor probably had a strong one – I thank you really ever so much for the book. Please give my love to your mother. It was so nice to see you both again the other day – please remember me to Kit, I was so sorry to have missed her.

Yours very sincerely     Henry E Green

1922    New York Passenger Lists: Henry Edward Green aged 41 years 10 months born 1876 Benevento Italy sailed from Liverpool on the Carmania to New York. Last permanent resident British E.Africa Nairobi, mother Mrs Green, Gensing Lodge, St Leonards on Sea Sussex. Friend Juans Weston Final destination. E.Africa non immigrant [ref: T715_2563 p.275]

1924    20/1     Letter from Henry Green from Zomba

Dear Aunt Isabel

Thank you so much for your letter which we enjoyed very much.  My work as a builder of clock towers and as a fitter of clocks is finished successfully and on the 15th Jan we had the opening ceremony.  We had no religious ceremony as the native soldiers who died were in greater part either Mahometans or Pagans and the few Christians amongst them belonged to so many different denominations that it was thought better to do without one.  However I managed to work out a ceremonial drill that everyone says was as impressive as anything could be.  The men entered into the spirit of everything and it really went very well indeed.

I am sending you a programme of the opening ceremony.  I designed and drew the programme myself and had it printed in Capetown.  I have been selling them at 2/6 a time so that I am making a little money for the fund as well.  We shall be home about the middle of April and will come and look you up at once and give all our news.  Our love to you my dear Aunt and Evie and Kit.  I am so glad Reg is getting on so well.  Had we be going home via Capetown we should certainly have gone to see him.

Your affectionate nephew                                          Henry Green

1945    3/11     Henry Edward Green birth about 1876 in Benevento Italy aged 69 years 7 months English last residence Jamaica appears on the Florida Passengers List sailing on the Connector from Kingston, Jamaica to Tampa, Florida.        [ref: M1844_65]

 

 

MAJOR HENRY GREEN D.S.O. O.B.E. :- Late Cameronians,,(Scottish Rifles) Born 1876 son of His Honour  John Philip Green Judge High Court of Bombay  by Donna Cecilia daughter of Marchese Pacca,Benevento,Italy    Educated Beaumont .Captain  of Sandhurst (presumably R.M.A,)  Cricket Eleven.      Served Sierra Leone 1888/9 and South Africa 1899/1900  (Despatches and D.S.O. – in London Gazette  27/7/1901)

O.B.E.supplement to London Gazette p.6 (1/1/1930). Formerly (with) King’s African Rifles Staff Officer Nyasaland Volunteer Force

 Major Henry Edward Green –  The  Catholic Who’s Who and Yearbook vol  54 ,1941

General & Heraldic Dictionary & Peerage & Baronetage 1914       The London Gazette 

 

 

 

PHILIP ANTHONY (MARK) GREEN 1877-

 

1877    19/10   Philip Anthony (Mark) son of John Philip & Cecilia Green was born in Bombay

1881    3/4       Census: listed with his parents and Aunt Emily Green - Thilyr, son (3) born Bombay, India, at Kings Road 3 & 4B Queens Hotel, Brighton, Sussex,

1891    5/4       Census:   Philip Green (13) Born East Indies listed as boarder at Beaumont The College, Old Windsor, as were his brothers [RG12/1013/122]

1901    31/3     Census:  Celia Green widow Head (55) born Italy Benevento living on own means, Philip Green son (25) born Bombay India Medical Student, Maude Falcon (33) cousin born Valeroyal  Cheshire living on own means and two boarders living at 6 Vere Street Marylebone [RG13/105/66/13]

1902    5/8       Phillip Anthony Mark Green became MRCS Eng. LRCP London

1903                The Medical Register. Phillip Anthony Mark Green listed at

13 Wemyss Road, Blackheath

1911    Medical Directory. Philip Anthony Mark Green listed at 37 Onslow Square, South Kensington

1911    2/4       Census:  Philip Green, head single (33) born Bombay India, Medical Practioner, Henry Douglas Larymore married (42) born Bengal India Colonial Civil Service Late R.A. Constance Larymore married 13 years (38) born Ounsborne York, Francis Pickering (29) Parlour Maid, Lucy Gaffe (24) Cook living at 37 Onslow Square, South Kensington. [RG14PN114 RG78PN4 RD2 SD1 ED27 SN156]

1911    2/4       Census: Theresa Roma Scott (42) born 1869 London with two of her three children Rosemary (7) born Portsmouth and Douglas (4) born London was living at 56 Draycott Place.  Her husband Sir Percy Moreton Scott, Vice Admiral petitioned for divorce on account of her adultery with Philip Green in Paris – he was awarded custody of the children. [NA J77/1037/1439]

(Philip was struck off for this.  I’m not sure of the dates, but I understand from his daughter (Cecilia) that he practised as the English doctor in Rome for some years). [Information Marilyn Catlow]

1911    2/4       Census:  Mother Cecilia Green (65) widow was a visitor at Gensing Lodge St. Leonards Hastings born Italy Naples. Said she had been married 38 years had 3 children and that 3 children had died(sic). There were several Nuns listed so possibly an Roman Catholic Retreat

1911    13/12   Philip Anthony Mark Green aged 34 bachelor Actor of 36 Cambridge Street, Belgravia son of Philip Green (deceased) Judge High Court of Justice India,

married at the Register office at St George Hanover Square, Theresa Roma Scott, formerly Dixon Hartland Spinster aged 43, the divorced wife of Percy Moreton Scott of 62 Artillery Mansions Westminster and daughter of Frederick Dixon-Hartland (deceased) First Baronet.

 

1915    Phillip Anthony Mark Green enrolled in the Royal Army Medical Corps

1919    The Medical Register:  Phillip Mark Anthony Green listed at Via Sebeto 1 Milan Italy

1921    21/1     Phillip Anthony Mark Green applied for his WWI Service Medals and his address was given as 20 Piazza Dispague Roma, Italy.

1925    26/9     Mother Cecilia Green of The Convent, Wilford Lane, West Bridgford Nottinghamshire widow died aged 83 Probate granted 26 September to Sebastian Henry Petre Esq. She left  £587.15.11d. Philip was an executor and after expenses and legacies left her estate divided equally between him and his brothers..

1927 & 31      The Medical Register:  Phillip Mark Anthony Green listed Piazza di Spiegua 20, Rome, Italy

1928    20/3     Wife Theresa Roma Green of 20 Riazza di Spagna, Rome, Italy wife of Phillip Anthony Mark Green died. Probate granted London 28 July to Arthur Wellesley Peckham solicitor  Effects £982.0s.4d. Resworn £870.2s.1d.

1929   Sept ¼  Philip A M Green married at Southwell Notts  Phyllis E.S. Popert.

1935  The Medical Register:  Phillip Mark Anthony Green listed at Via Ludovisi 35, Rome, Italy  Philip and Phyllis had one daughter, Cecilia.  The family lived in Italy for the first five years of Cecilia’s life.  She says that he died of pneumonia – which must have been shortly after returning to England – whether on a visit or permanently is not known. [Details Marilyn Catlow]

1936    11/2     Philip Anthony Mark Green of Shrub Hill Cottage Molehill Rd, Chelsfield, Kent died aged 58 at the London Hospital.  Probate 16 April to Phyllis Eva Sherbrooke Green widow.  Effects £4,149.0s 8d  Resworn £4,383.5s 10d.

1953   Sept ¼ Cecelia P Green married Ian M. Barton of St Davids Lecturer at Bury    St. Edmunds

1957    10/11   Phyllis Eva Sherbrooke Green of Black Swan House, Wattisfield, Near Diss Norfolk widow decd died aged 64 at The West Suffolk Hospital Bury St. Edmonds. Admin (with will) (Limited) London 2 May to Richard Oswald Hibbert Solicitor and Dorothy Symonds spinster her attorneys. Effects £9,827.11s.4d.

 

Updated Summer 2014.          Sarah Tannner